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Why do people get different memory speeds on the same board and same memory then, when the only difference is the CPU of the same make and model?

No idea, ive not seen that occur....bios revisions maybe?

I bought a 210 dollar kit of 4000 ram and the highest it would go is 2933, that right there told me its too early and people need to just be patient.
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That's a pretty bold claim. I tend to agree that it has to do with the memory and the IMC but not necessarily the board based on what I've read. The only way the board makes a difference is if it's running a BIOS with different AGESA.

Its boards and memory. I know someone with a b350 board and my exact memory kit and he has it running at 3200, my x370 board is stuck at 2400.

In due time people, in due time.
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On C6H even with current UEFI you need to use strap 2666MHz and lower if you wish to use odd CAS. Regardless of strap used the timings which we do have access to currently can be odd.

More of the other timings should be coming in May IIRC from a post by Elmor. A recent post by Elmor (plus also in his OC guide) the lower straps use tighter other timings, so 2666MHz strap with higher BCLK will be more efficient for say 3200MHz than using 3200MHz strap with 100MHz BCLK.

I have used 134MHz BCLK with lower strap to attain 3200MHz, only issue is my Intel 7260AC WiFi/BT card craps out. IIRC it only stays working upto ~109MHz BCLK.

Yesterday I also used Asus MemTweakIt app, that shows all the timings and a RAM efficiency score. Will grab some screenies on lower straps, etc.





I think I'm also gonna start post link log of where I note members swap CPU and they gain extra RAM speed, recent example. Now know of 4 instances within C6H thread. Some members have tried multiple RAM kits, in the AM4 mobo thread one member went through 4 differing RAM kits without success of gaining higher RAM.

Posted this in C6H thread 2x I think, Fugger.
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Its boards and memory. I know someone with a b350 board and my exact memory kit and he has it running at 3200, my x370 board is stuck at 2400.

In due time people, in due time.

If your theory was correct, the same board should have the same results when using the same memory and different CPUs but this is not the case for multiple users in the C6H thread. I do tend to believe most memory will eventually work at 3200 but a number of members have demonstrated your theory is false.
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im getting angrier over this carbon board, I spent the night overclocking it to 3900 and getting it to pass ibt avx on max, it did.
I got up today and tried super pi, and noticed that my cpu was going at 3200-3750mhz, which is not what I had put in bios.
I cant change the cl with out it down clocking the ram, the others do change.
there is no raid system I can find on it, when selecting raid, there's no software to configure the drives that I have found.
and there the no off-set voltage in bios either.

you know I don't care about most of this, I did have a pet cat till about three weeks ago, someone stole my cat for god sake. mad.gif
    
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Its boards and memory. I know someone with a b350 board and my exact memory kit and he has it running at 3200, my x370 board is stuck at 2400.

In due time people, in due time.

So he is using the exact same physical RAM sticks and CPU that you used in your board? (Not same model...THE same physical piece of hardware) If not then your comparison doesn't make sense and you can easily attribute that to different RAM or different IMC (CPU).
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I have used 134MHz BCLK with lower strap to attain 3200MHz, only issue is my Intel 7260AC WiFi/BT card craps out. IIRC it only stays working upto ~109MHz BCLK.
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Have you tried manually setting PCIe gen in the BIOS. After 108 IIRC the PCIe automaticlly drops from Gen3 to gen 2. On auto the card/slot might be getting confused.
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Have you tried manually setting PCIe gen in the BIOS. After 108 IIRC the PCIe automaticlly drops from Gen3 to gen 2. On auto the card/slot might be getting confused.

Will try it mate smile.gif .

From when I discussed it with The Stilt in another thread (is on C6H as well) and ref'ing Elmor's post in AM4 mobo thread/C6HOC guide, it drops PCI-E Gen automatically at xxx BCLK. I have not changed it from whatever is default, which maybe [Auto], but will try wink.gif .

Today's a "tinker free day" for me wink.gif .
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im getting angrier over this carbon board, I spent the night overclocking it to 3900 and getting it to pass ibt avx on max, it did.
I got up today and tried super pi, and noticed that my cpu was going at 3200-3750mhz, which is not what I had put in bios.
I cant change the cl with out it down clocking the ram, the others do change.
there is no raid system I can find on it, when selecting raid, there's no software to configure the drives that I have found.
and there the no off-set voltage in bios either.

you know I don't care about most of this, I did have a pet cat till about three weeks ago, someone stole my cat for god sake. mad.gif

If you can, maybe get a refund for the board or swap it out with an RMA? I'm using the Asus PRIME X370-PRO and it's been excellent, so I'd recommend that to you for sure if you are so fed up you want a completely different board.

That said, it seems like the problems you're having with it are exceptional, so maybe an RMA is your best bet... Sorry man frown.gif
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No idea, ive not seen that occur....bios revisions maybe?

I bought a 210 dollar kit of 4000 ram and the highest it would go is 2933, that right there told me its too early and people need to just be patient.

I'm not entirely sure about the exact setups of those people, but I can remember @SpecChum did exchange his 1700 and got improvements on RAM speed. Maybe he can chime in and tell us about BIOS versions and whatnot.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/8460#post_26005266
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