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Originally Posted by SpecChum View Post

I just put the new CPU in, didn't even clear CMOS, so every setting was identical.

Booted right up at 3200.

For me it was 100% the CPU.

I do think the May AGESA update will improve this, however. I even think my old CPU will probably boot 3200 at that point.

Reason I don't think it's the IMC directly is once the old one booted at 3200, Windows was fine (I had to set vboot to 1.43v - and that it was a crapshoot - Windows reboots never worked), even at the standard 1.35v. It's the training it gets stuck on; once it's trained it's 100% A-OK.

Thank you for stopping by and confirming this! smile.gif


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vcore and memory speeds are tied to one another due to the speed of the infinity fabric being dependent on ram speeds; Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
this may potentially be true for vsoc, but in my testing increasing vsoc from 0.95v to 1.15 did absolutely nothing for memory/overall stability at 3200.

Increasing my vcore by 25mV helped stabilize my ram @ 3.8ghz on my 1700, while I am able to drop vSOC from the default 1.1v all the way down to 0.94v and maintain stability after 4 hours of x264 loops.

Setting a manual cpu voltage at the stock cpu settings, while increasing ram multis may shed some light on this. If your kit stops booting past a certain point up your vcore by 10-20mV jumps (whatever the minimum is for your boards granularity). There are a TON of reasons why people are having different experiences between kits, ranging from bios updates to user error.

Exactly my thoughts. I'd bet that a many can not get their memory to 3200 because of the data fabric not being able to run at 1600 (at the given vcore?).
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I can't help you much with your system problems, but for some encouragement about your cat just keep your hopes up. I had a cat that was missing for 20 months that we recovered when someone took him to a Vet and the vet scanned his ID chip. he's back home and happy as ever

hes not chipped and feeling some one took him by car, hes well gone, be amazing luck for him to find me now.

try to put my mind to overclocking, but my god what is going on with this system.
    
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im getting angrier over this carbon board, I spent the night overclocking it to 3900 and getting it to pass ibt avx on max, it did.
I got up today and tried super pi, and noticed that my cpu was going at 3200-3750mhz, which is not what I had put in bios.
I cant change the cl with out it down clocking the ram, the others do change.
there is no raid system I can find on it, when selecting raid, there's no software to configure the drives that I have found.
and there the no off-set voltage in bios either.

you know I don't care about most of this, I did have a pet cat till about three weeks ago, someone stole my cat for god sake. mad.gif

Ah. people suck. I've spent ages looking for lost pets. The resources online now are crazy and I've had some turn up a couple of months down the road after I'd given up real hope.


Doesn't that MSI board have oc profiles? They don't stick?
post #8794 of 11721
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We don't even know why the ram is failing at 3200 but not 2933 (mine is fine at 2933 even with timings set to 16-16-16-16-36) but its an instant fail at 3200mhz at any dram voltage and any soc voltage.

I may have missed previous posts with hard numbers on whether 3200 is really worth the bother.

Can someone with memory running 3500+ please post a set of benchmarks at 2133, 2400, 2666, 2933, 3200 and so on (depending on BCLK) to show what the difference really is?
Something simple as CB15. It would help if you could also show Ryzen speed and memory timings for each run.
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I may have missed previous posts with hard numbers on whether 3200 is really worth the bother.

Can someone with memory running 3500+ please post a set of benchmarks at 2133, 2400, 2666, 2933, 3200 and so on (depending on BCLK) to show what the difference really is?
Something simple as CB15. It would help if you could also show Ryzen speed and memory timings for each run.

There are hundreds online already...
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There are hundreds online already...

Not with ryzen there isnt,
    
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I may have missed previous posts with hard numbers on whether 3200 is really worth the bother.

Can someone with memory running 3500+ please post a set of benchmarks at 2133, 2400, 2666, 2933, 3200 and so on (depending on BCLK) to show what the difference really is?
Something simple as CB15. It would help if you could also show Ryzen speed and memory timings for each run.

There are hundreds online already...

sure, but all spread out and not comparable. if you can't/won't help then move on over and allow someone else to possibly help.
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My post on what happened between CPU swapping, same all other hardware, testing at the time UEFI 0902 / 1002 on both, link. Then we have Disasterpiec99, 1700 does 3200MHz, 1700X 2933MHz, all same hardware except CPU, link. Next SpecChum, inconsistent 3200MHz, 2x RAM kits used, link. Buys new CPU (same batch as one that worked 3200MHz for me), link. Tyrluk, many ROMs tried no 3200Mhz, link. Swap CPU has 3200MHz, link.

So that's the 4 instances I spoke of, there are others I have read as well across other threads/forums.

Next 1TM1 Hynix M RAM IC, C6H and Asus Prime X370 Pro, 1800X 3200MHz on both, 1700X 2933MHz, link. MNMadman, 2x 1700, both do 3200MHz, link. noko59 2x 1700X both do 3200MHz, link. Gadfly, 2x C6H, 2x 1800X, 1x 1700, 4x RAM kits, link.

Reikoji all ROMs 3200MHz, link. TheK 3200MHz issue on new roms, had 3200MHz on past, link. y0bailey new roms kill 3200MHz, link. badhairguy new rom 3200MHz, link. LuckyImperial new rom 3200Mhz, link. goncalossilva F4-3200C15D-32GTZKW 32GB kit new rom 3200MHz, link. buduz0r new rom 3200mhz, link.

Plenty which can not on C6H with past or new UEFI gain 3200MHz, not linking all those.

A lot of differing experiences.
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There are hundreds online already...
With 3500+ memory speeds? Please share a link or two.
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Speaking of ODT...does anyone know where to find which values to use for which ICs? I tried looking on Samsung's data sheet and best I can tell it is 40 ohms...but there are references to 34 ohms, 40 ohms, 50 ohms, and even 120 and 240 ohms; but I can't make heads or tails of it.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Oops, that was the B-die data sheet, but the E-die data sheet has the same info.

... I did say 'appropriate caution' right? right? tongue.gif

If there was such a thing as cheap ddr4 and you had some lying around I'd recommend using that first. Practice. And the may agesa update may make subtimings adjustable without risking ram. Look in the manufacturer's forums and you'll run across some bad flashes but flashing it at all invalidates the warranty.

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