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Not with ryzen there isnt,

Yea, even with Ryzen.
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Ohh. Cheap stuff? You said?



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... I did say 'appropriate caution' right? right? tongue.gif

If there was such a thing as cheap ddr4 and you had some lying around I'd recommend using that first. Practice. And the may agesa update may make subtimings adjustable without risking ram. Look in the manufacturer's forums and you'll run across some bad flashes but flashing it at all invalidates the warranty.

" I accidentally wrote over it."

I'm all for appropriate caution but I need to know what "appropriate caution" entails, other than "don't flash your RAM". Hypothetically speaking, if I were going to do it anyway, what steps should I take to make sure it goes smooth? What's the procedure?

Also in that post I was only talking about playing with the ProcODT in the motherboard's BIOS, not flashing anything.

If you wanna give me any advice on safe RAM flashing (besides not doing it), I made a post in the memory subsection.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1627823/how-do-i-read-modify-flash-spd-xmp-profiles-on-ddr4-eeprom
Edited by bardacuda - 4/13/17 at 11:57am
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Yea, even with Ryzen.
Thank you for the reminder. I saw this video previously and forgot. 3200 to 3600 is 2-3% gain or in some cases worse. Does this make the May BIOS update useless?

Also any more comparison numbers from this community?
post #8805 of 11732
I haven't seen any videos comparing 3200 to 3600...but I have seen comparisons going between 2400 - 2666 - 2933 - 3200 and there were significant gains.
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I am now starting to believe Ryzen accepts Micron chips just fine.
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Thank you for the reminder. I saw this video previously and forgot. 3200 to 3600 is 2-3% gain or in some cases worse. Does this make the May BIOS update useless?

Also any more comparison numbers from this community?

The value of 2-3% will certainly vary by user; if that is the difference between VR at 87fps and 90fps, that 3% may have just become valuable. If the difference was gaming in 1080 at 145fps instead of 140, the return probably isn't worth much.
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Thank you for the reminder. I saw this video previously and forgot. 3200 to 3600 is 2-3% gain or in some cases worse. Does this make the May BIOS update useless?

Also any more comparison numbers from this community?

The value of 2-3% will certainly vary by user; if that is the difference between VR at 87fps and 90fps, that 3% may have just become valuable. If the difference was gaming in 1080 at 145fps instead of 140, the return probably isn't worth much.

of course, isn't 2-3% within a margin of error?
post #8809 of 11732
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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

My post on what happened between CPU swapping, same all other hardware, testing at the time UEFI 0902 / 1002 on both, link. Then we have Disasterpiec99, 1700 does 3200MHz, 1700X 2933MHz, all same hardware except CPU, link. Next SpecChum, inconsistent 3200MHz, 2x RAM kits used, link. Buys new CPU (same batch as one that worked 3200MHz for me), link. Tyrluk, many ROMs tried no 3200Mhz, link. Swap CPU has 3200MHz, link.

So that's the 4 instances I spoke of, there are others I have read as well across other threads/forums.

Next 1TM1 Hynix M RAM IC, C6H and Asus Prime X370 Pro, 1800X 3200MHz on both, 1700X 2933MHz, link. MNMadman, 2x 1700, both do 3200MHz, link. noko59 2x 1700X both do 3200MHz, link. Gadfly, 2x C6H, 2x 1800X, 1x 1700, 4x RAM kits, link.

Reikoji all ROMs 3200MHz, link. TheK 3200MHz issue on new roms, had 3200MHz on past, link. y0bailey new roms kill 3200MHz, link. badhairguy new rom 3200MHz, link. LuckyImperial new rom 3200Mhz, link. goncalossilva F4-3200C15D-32GTZKW 32GB kit new rom 3200MHz, link. buduz0r new rom 3200mhz, link.

Plenty which can not on C6H with past or new UEFI gain 3200MHz, not linking all those.

A lot of differing experiences.

+ Rep Thanks for keeping track Gupsterg.

Bios has improved memory compatibility. But not all imc are created equal. It's real.
@chew* has shown this on every board and bios -edit that he can get his mitts on - . I'm sure in the posts Gupsterg's provided there are others who bring more than a little real experience to the table.
Silicon varies. What bios can fix will still leave outliers. If memory serves this has been true of every architecture with process maturity bringing greater consistency.

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Originally Posted by 1TM1 View Post

Thank you for the reminder. I saw this video previously and forgot. 3200 to 3600 is 2-3% gain or in some cases worse. Does this make the May BIOS update useless?

Also any more comparison numbers from this community?

They're here.. just.. not organized. I'm sure the crosshair owners thread is full of examples of cinebench runs 3200 + with varying amounts of supporting information

@mus1mus I suppose kingston 2137 could be cheap. O.o Flashed?
Edited by yendor - 4/13/17 at 12:25pm
post #8810 of 11732
Nope. Just plain Kingston DDR4 with Micron chips.
Doesn't even have XMP on it.

I will try to grab the serials that I can bin. We have a lot of these somewhere. smile.gif
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