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Anyone having problems with cpu-z not using all threads when it benches?? It rarely does. Im trying to do a 4.099 run but its being mehh

Windows power plan on balanced can do that.
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is 3.7 the max you can push?

No im just on the stock cooler at the moment so im trying to keep temps low. I want to get the Noctua nh-d15 se-am4 but Newegg page for it doesn't seem to be working....
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post #8933 of 11472
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Originally Posted by Malinkadink View Post

No im just on the stock cooler at the moment so im trying to keep temps low. I want to get the Noctua nh-d15 se-am4 but Newegg page for it doesn't seem to be working....

Gotcha. Post back what you end up with once you get a better cooler. thumb.gif
post #8934 of 11472
Is it best for HPET to be disabled or enabled?
post #8935 of 11472
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Originally Posted by AiiGee View Post

Is it best for HPET to be disabled or enabled?

IIRC it can cause issue with higher OCs resulting in instability, and should be turned off.
post #8936 of 11472
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Originally Posted by alucardis666 View Post

IIRC it can cause issue with higher OCs resulting in instability, and should be turned off.

Thank you. I've been getting slightly conflicting answers on the internet so I wasn't sure at all.
post #8937 of 11472
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IIRC it can cause issue with higher OCs resulting in instability, and should be turned off.

In the case of the C6H, I'm pretty sure it is recommended to have it enabled. So, more conflicting info for the question being asked lachen.gif
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post #8938 of 11472
I realise its fun trying to maximise your memory frequency.

I've been there before myself (trying to squeeze every last ounce of juice) from my sticks.

However yesterday I done a little test. (I dropped my memory speed by appox. 1000 MHZ. I ran the Heaven Benchmark 'before' and 'after'. Result: no change.

Isn't memory frequency actually "in affect" really a measure of bandwidth? (x amount of data read in x amount of time)? I can't imagine there are many modern applications that are able to fully saturate that tunnel.

Even 2133MHZ ram has throughput of about 17,000 MB/s (17 GB/s) .(think of it like a tunnel wide enough for 17 GB/s)

Not even your ENTIRE game install is probably 17GB. These days some are. but I still highly doubt the entire thing would all need to be accessed simultaneously!

Graphics on the other hand are different, its not just data. It's graphical. It's a physical entity being produced (light) which your eyes can sense. It does need high throughput, but that's handled by your GPU's memory. (today we often see video ram bandwidth to the likes of 300 GB/s ++

But I say again; unless your ENTIRE game install, ALL needed to be accessed simultaneously, every time, every second you play; you are NEVER going to fully saturate the bandwidth tunnel for system memory. (even if that memory was only set at a pathetic DDR3 level of 800 MHZ. (which is still 6GB/s).

So why is everyone so bent on getting the highest possible memory speed?

For an experiment; I even lowered my RAM to 800 MHZ (bus clock 400 MHZ). Which is still 6 GB/s. Did I see any performance drop: no....

Honestly guys, save your money.
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/14/17 at 4:04pm
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post #8939 of 11472
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I realise its fun trying to maximise your memory frequency.

I've been there before myself (trying to squeeze every last ounce of juice) from my sticks.

However yesterday I done a little test. (I dropped my memory speed by appox. 1000 MHZ. I ran the Heaven Benchmark 'before' and 'after'. Result: no change.

Isn't memory frequency actually "in affect" really a measure of bandwidth? (x amount of data read in x amount of time)? I can't imagine there are many modern applications that are able to fully saturate that tunnel.

Even 2133MHZ ram has throughput of about 17,000 MB/s.(or 17 GB)

Not even your ENTIRE game install is probably 17GB. These days some are. but I still highly doubt the entire thing would all need to be accessed simultaneously!

Graphics on the other hand are different, its not just data. It's graphical. It's a physical entity being produced (light) which your eyes can sense. It does need high throughput, but that's handled by your GPU's memory. (today we often see video ram bandwidth to the likes of 300 GB/s ++

But I say again; unless your ENTIRE game install, ALL needed to be accessed simultaneously, every time, every second you play; you are NEVER going to fully saturate the bandwidth tunnel for system memory. (even if that memory was only set at a pathetic DDR3 level of 800 MHZ. (which is still 6GB/s).

So why is everyone so bent on getting the highest possible memory speed?

For an experiment; I even lowered my RAM to 800 MHZ (bus clock 400 MHZ). Which is still 6 GB/s. Did I see any performance drop: no....

Honestly guys, save your money.

This video indicates that faster memory does indeed produce measurable results in at least some applications.
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nrpeyton that's quite a hasty conclusion based off a single benchmark,
Just because it holds true in one scenario doesn't mean it holds true in all
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