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Hi guys just a quick question to all, will Ryzen benefit from higher ram speeds in excess of 4000mhz? I saw a Trident Z RGB kit rated for 4266 but im not sure if my mobo(gaming pro carbon) or cpu can support that speed.

AMP now works on the latest bios, 1.3. although i can only get up to 2667 so far on my 3000mhz rated ram. 2933 still crashes.

Noone's pushed ram in excess of 4000 yet that I know of. . Your motherboard would not be one of the ones that currently might do it and unless it's really discounted heavily I'd pass. For any ram purchase though, ram prices do not look to drop for a few months til new fabs spin up. Last I saw that was expected to start having an effect on pricing 5 months from now?

Inftinity fabric can run faster, already has run at a higher ratio on ES bios. I suspect there were problems, not obvious, that are prevented by it's current functional speed limitation.
Stilt mentioned it running at 1:1 in the ryzen strictly technical thread.
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I got BSOD's when i went to creator update but it was related to the update, some driver buffer error. Rolled back and everything is normal again. Gonna fresh install sooner or later as the creators update is now on the install tool, maybe that would work for you too?

I'm on Enterprise LTSB so I don't get many updates.

So far it's only crashed in Company of Heroes, changed to C15 timings and 2133MHz so we'll see how that goes.
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DRAM or VRAM?

DRAM.
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Well I did the creator fresh install update, played a game with no bsod, got happy for a second and then it bsod'd..... rolleyes.gif

So Im headed back to the store tomorrow where I bought the parts. What should I take back? just the ram for a more compatible set? or the motherboard and cpu as well?
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I'm on Enterprise LTSB so I don't get many updates.

So far it's only crashed in Company of Heroes, changed to C15 timings and 2133MHz so we'll see how that goes.
DRAM.

How do you know?
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Well I did the creator fresh install update, played a game with no bsod, got happy for a second and then it bsod'd..... rolleyes.gif

So Im headed back to the store tomorrow where I bought the parts. What should I take back? just the ram for a more compatible set? or the motherboard and cpu as well?

Why would you return parts when the problem is the update? O.o

I just downloaded the tool to ignore the creators update for now.
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Posted before that I saw no gains on FPS with 2400MHz vs 3200MHz with 3.8GHz CPU in 3DM FS/E, then I posted some Crysis 2 / TombRaider 2013 / Bioshock Infinite FRAPS tests.

Today I added 2133MHz vs 3200MHz SuperPosition 1080P Extreme preset in OP of thread in my sig, not seeing any difference. Is it GPU not meaty enough? may go to my bench use 1175MHz / 545MHz OC ROM to see what happens.

In the ryzen strictly technical thread several observed significant fps drops using fraps to record. While recording without it is problematic have you compared recorded results with runs sans Fraps?

And looncranz is getting some of his thorough testing and observations online here

-edit He's not kidding. what he's got up is only a small portion of what he's done. even if he fills his placeholders.
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How do you know?

Because everything else is working fine but when the DRAM gets heavily stressed like in games, it crashes. The only new thing's I've done is install the latest A.2 BIOS and Windows update KB4015221, unless it's one of them causing issues.

It just black screens out of nowhere in games but normal desktop use is perfectly fine.
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Anyone else randomly getting black screen crashes?

Seems to only happen in some games but still extremely annoying, caused by RAM as far as I can tell mad.gif.
I seem to get that only on an undervoltaged core clock. I haven't found the magic setting yet for stable, fully loaded 3.9 Ghz. Had it run for 18 hours last attempt but found it black screened this morning when I got up. Crashed a little after 1 AM. Backed it down to 3.85 Ghz again. That is days and weeks stable fully loaded. I am probably going to stay put at 3.85Ghz, the extra voltage needed and the extra core temps just isn't worth it. What I don't like about the black screen error is that it doesn't leave any usable traces behind unlike a proper BSOD which goes to a mini-dump. All you get is the entry in event viewer that the system crashed and all the parameters in BugCheck are 0X0000 values for everything. Useless for troubleshooting.
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I seem to get that only on an undervoltaged core clock. I haven't found the magic setting yet for stable, fully loaded 3.9 Ghz. Had it run for 18 hours last attempt but found it black screened this morning when I got up. Crashed a little after 1 AM. Backed it down to 3.85 Ghz again. That is days and weeks stable fully loaded. I am probably going to stay put at 3.85Ghz, the extra voltage needed and the extra core temps just isn't worth it. What I don't like about the black screen error is that it doesn't leave any usable traces behind unlike a proper BSOD which goes to a mini-dump. All you get is the entry in event viewer that the system crashed and all the parameters in BugCheck are 0X0000 values for everything. Useless for troubleshooting.

Mines at stock, 1.35v atm which has been stable. Yeah the black screen is annoying, mines giving me 0x8000200000000002.

May change it back to stock volts and let it decide what it wants to do.
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Because everything else is working fine but when the DRAM gets heavily stressed like in games, it crashes. The only new thing's I've done is install the latest A.2 BIOS and Windows update KB4015221, unless it's one of them causing issues.

It just black screens out of nowhere in games but normal desktop use is perfectly fine.
Normal desktop use doesn't stress the chip anywhere near hard enough. I can almost predict when I will get a black screen. When I have a dozen or more computing tasks hit the chip all at the same time is when it is almost guaranteed to black screen. But since you can't predict just when the previous task is going to finish or that every task takes a different amount of time to compute, at some point all the cores are going to get hit with multiple concurrency. It doesn't help that the tasks are AVX code either. The only solution for me is to back down on the overclock.
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