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Originally Posted by nrpeyton View Post

What could cause a 1352 watt draw (requiring an additional 4-pin) when there is already a 24-pin & 8-pin?
I am intrigued, lol.
A hypothetical scenario:
In a mild overclock Ryzen pulls 140W and whole computer ~ 299W (some earlier Watts measurements)
C6H is good for LN2 cooled overclocks, so this may get higher amperage at lower volts but power would go up even more.
Now add the GPUs. Each 1080ti is _rated_ to 250W (before it gets overclocked). A mildly OC'ed Ryzen with 2x 1080ti adds up to 800W.
If the upcoming AMD graphics card (Vega?) pulls an estimated 300W and the motherboard allows 3x AMD GPUs we are at 1200W.
Add several (all eight?) SATA storage and you are at 1300W or more.
If you plan on 3 Vegas coming in a few months then get a C6H with all three power plugs connected to get Crossfire in Crosshair, bad pun frown.gif . If you go with 1 or 2 Nvidias then X370-Pro would suffice. Other than eight SATA plugs and more power capacity I saw no difference between the two motherboards. Maybe the VRUs run a bit cooler in the C6H.
Edited by 1TM1 - 4/16/17 at 6:57pm
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I agree with him. 6+2 phase on the most expensive board is daylight robbery. By comparison the ASUS Crosshair is 10+2 phase. With insanely high quality components.

The ASrock board is a trumendous 16 phase design, .


Gotta love doublers and phase counts. Make it easy to get confused. The hero is not 10+2 when you're breaking it down as thoroughly as buildzoid does in the video. . Pretty sure it's not even 6+2. Nor is the Taichi 16 phase

It's not the number of phases, Frankly my only complaint about the vrm on that board is the efficiency of the component selection. A lot of us really liked the design. Til we got to 3 components per phase... You know which ones. Small amounts more power going in, to get to the same amount to the cpu is not going to kill the power budget and the board otherwise runs efficiently, or the others it's been compared to do it worse if you use previous power draw results from other reviewers for comparison. . And it definitely deals with any heat generated perfectly fine. That part of the design arguably, (we've argued about it!) works better than competitors.

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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

He is correct about what parts it is equipped with, but they won't be a limiting factor on any of the current AM4 cpu overclocks.

He did use 125 C examples which I think would be quite impossible to reach on the Titanium ( 48 C in the example below) .

I flashed my Titanium to a new bios today and started working my way back to a daily overclock - here is an example of temps etc on the Titanium at 4100mhz during prime 95 blend.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


There was the one poster headed north of 110.. 113 last we saw on vrms? Turn on IBT and gives it more volts!
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Originally Posted by nrpeyton View Post

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I agree with him. 6+2 phase on the most expensive board is daylight robbery. By comparison the ASUS Crosshair is 10+2 phase. With insanely high quality components.

The ASrock board is a trumendous 16 phase design, .


Gotta love doublers and phase counts. Make it easy to get confused. The hero is not 10+2 when you're breaking it down as thoroughly as buildzoid does in the video. . Pretty sure it's not even 6+2. Nor is the Taichi 16 phase

It's not the number of phases, Frankly my only complaint about the vrm on that board is the efficiency of the component selection. A lot of us really liked the design. Til we got to 3 components per phase... You know which ones. Small amounts more power going in, to get to the same amount to the cpu is not going to kill the power budget and the board otherwise runs efficiently, or the others it's been compared to do it worse if you use previous power draw results from other reviewers for comparison. . And it definitely deals with any heat generated perfectly fine. That part of the design arguably, (we've argued about it!) works better than competitors.

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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

He is correct about what parts it is equipped with, but they won't be a limiting factor on any of the current AM4 cpu overclocks.

He did use 125 C examples which I think would be quite impossible to reach on the Titanium ( 48 C in the example below) .

I flashed my Titanium to a new bios today and started working my way back to a daily overclock - here is an example of temps etc on the Titanium at 4100mhz during prime 95 blend.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


There was the one poster headed north of 110.. 113 last we saw on vrms? Turn on IBT and gives it more volts!


lol - no thank you.
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So I could get 4.0Ghz stable at all unless I neared 1.52v....However after increasing the SOC voltage to 1.225, I am sitting at 4.0Ghz at 1.4375v. Stress testing now. Will try to lower core voltage more if I pass all my stress test.

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anyone getting a solid 144+ fps in rocket league?
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anyone getting a solid 144+ fps in rocket league?

I think i do if i turn off frame rate target control on my r9 390.
    
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anyone getting a solid 144+ fps in rocket league?

Lul. I'd say so:

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32g 14-14-14-34 CH6 4x8g configuration how to...

Ryzen -Mythbusters R5/CH6 edition.

https://youtu.be/yAiW3IO-cIQ
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Well I'm glad I use Win 7 before and going back again.

6x runs of 3.8GHz 3200MHz on Win 7, High Performance Power Plan with min CPU 5% and max 100%, core parking disabled.

So far my test results on Win 10. Gonna start modding core parking to see how it goes, will also use Crimson v16.12.2 WHQL as in Win 7, not that I think v17.4.2 is losing me performance.
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I almost gave my money to Newegg for a Ryzen rig. I still have the stuff in my cart. I am going to sleep on it. The only thing that stopped me was a 16 Gigabytes of memory cost almost as much as the the cpu or motherboard. Any good memory kits lower than $175 to $200?
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