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I almost gave my money to Newegg for a Ryzen rig. I still have the stuff in my cart. I am going to sleep on it. The only thing that stopped me was a 16 Gigabytes of memory cost almost as much as the the cpu or motherboard. Any good memory kits lower than $175 to $200?

Any of the low latency Trident Z stuff. 14CL 3200 stuff should all be Sammy b die so look for those kits
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He is correct about what parts it is equipped with, but they won't be a limiting factor on any of the current AM4 cpu overclocks.

He did use 125 C examples which I think would be quite impossible to reach on the Titanium ( 48 C in the example below) .

I flashed my Titanium to a new bios today and started working my way back to a daily overclock - here is an example of temps etc on the Titanium at 4100mhz during prime 95 blend.


I looked at the screenshots you linked, very closely.

To be honest I'm impressed:

222 watts load on the CPU, but your v.core only moved by 8 milli volts (between min and maximum) at that load.

That looks pretty smooth to me.

I'd love to put that board under LN2 to see if it still holds up. (just pure curiosity).

Due to CPU's all being more energy efficient these days, motherboards should really be getting cheaper.
VRM's don't need to be as beefy.

(That 222 watt load was at (I presume) your maximum overclock).

Compare the TDP of the 1800x of 95 watts (or 65 watts of 1700) with 220 watts of the FX-9590.

Then you realise, VRM's only need to be half the size.

Prices we are paying should reflect this; but unfortunately its actually getting worse (more expensive), not cheaper.

Profit margins of these companies must be looking pretty healthy just now. Unfortunately at our cost.

Hopefully that's the point buildzoid (and gamers-nexus) was trying to convey in that video.

It's a good board, just the price is unreasonable for a 6+2.
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/16/17 at 5:48pm
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I almost gave my money to Newegg for a Ryzen rig. I still have the stuff in my cart. I am going to sleep on it. The only thing that stopped me was a 16 Gigabytes of memory cost almost as much as the the cpu or motherboard. Any good memory kits lower than $175 to $200?

If you plan to game at 1080p, then i'd recommend G.Skill Flare X.
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Is 3200 as fast as its going to get, or have AMD committed to pushing that further?
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If you plan to game at 1080p, then i'd recommend G.Skill Flare X.

Yup, about $200. The cost of a nice board or R5 1600.
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Yup, about $200. The cost of a nice board or R5 1600.

What board do you have in the cart? you dont necessarily need the fastest.
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What board do you have in the cart? you dont necessarily need the fastest.


CHVI HERO.
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CHVI HERO.

You may want to go over this list.
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Ehm guys?

Can someone confirm this or is this complete hokum from this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t6LP9glKmc

It sounds like he knows what he is talking about but i really doubt this can be true to be honest.



billzoid knows his stuff and likes amd
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He's good.

I watch a lot of his stuff.

He usually focuses on GPU VRM's and recently done a VRM breakdown of all the leading 1080 GPU's.

The guys really knows his electronics. Very impressive knowledge.

I agree with him. 6+2 phase on the most expensive board is daylight robbery. By comparison the ASUS Crosshair is 10+2 phase. With insanely high quality components.

The ASrock board is a trumendous 16 phase design, still features 60 amp chokes, dual-stack mosfets and Nichicon 12k capacitors.

If you ever want to do LN2/ Dry Ice I would stay clear of MSI's 6+2 board. The fact "Gamers Nexus" even named the video "overpriced VRM" says it all anyway, lol.

If you don't plan on overclocking heavily, you'll be absolutely fine though. The VRM is about the same size as one used on a 250 watt GPU. So you still have room to play, it just won't run as cool as the others. And won't set records on LN2.

MSI were clearly looking for an easy-win due to big variance against "cost" on this one.

Just to clear this up...

ASUS CH6 is 4+2
Taichi is 6+2
Fatality pro is 6+2
K7 and G5 are 6+2
MSI Xpower is 6+2

In terms of overall power delivery quality: Taichi, F. pro and The CH6 are roughly equivalent (CH6 being the best) > K7=G5 > possibly the biostar GT7? > Xpower redface.gif
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