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Finally pushed a bit further set 3.8ghz and 1.35vcore first attempt and it's stable. Stock cooler too maxing out a 64c. I'm tempted to try for 4ghz but don't wanna be greedy.

Prepare to settle in for a 3.9, 4.0 can be hit on stock cooler but depends on alot of things including lottery, 3.9 is generally "fast" enough
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That is weird. I always set mine to 1.35v and forget it, regardless of clockspeed. Different board though.
Do you set RAM speed and timings at the same time? Also, have you tried Ryzen Master for setting your memory speeds/timings?


Nope im not familiar with timings. I just leave the timings default as well as the voltages at 1.35. Only things i changed is the ram speed in bios
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what the absolute temp limit for ryzen? just hit 70c in a long gaming session so a bit concerned.
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Tried asking in the general AMD forum and was directed here, i know, i dont have a 1700+ but help is greatly appreciated ! smile.gif

I just recently upgraded my 9 year old core i7 920 and oh man does it feel fantastic!!


old system
CPU - 1st gen core i7 920 @3.7ghz
Cooler - Xigmatek Dark knight
MB - Intel DX58SO
Ram - 6gb G.Skill 1600mhz triple channel ddr3 9-9-9-24 1.66v
GPU - XFX radeon HD7770
PSU - Silverstone Decathlon 850w
HDD - 640gb WDC Black

New System
CPU - Ryzen 5 1600 @3.8ghz 1.29v-1.319v
Cooler - Amd Wraith Spire
MB - Asus Prime B350-Plus
Ram - 16gb G.Skill Flare- X 2400mhz Dual channel 16-16-16-39 1.2v
GPU - XFX Radeon RX480 8gb 1320mhz/2120mhz
PSU - Silverstone Decathlon 850w
SSD - Samsung 850 Evo 250gb
HDD - 640gb WDC black

Night and day difference between these two systems, the ryzen system is just...... oh so sweet and the intel system.... well, lets just say i give intel an A++ for longevity, but ADIOS!!! Good Riddance!! Intel will not be missed...


I'm still in the process of getting everything stable and playing with the overclocks, But I do have some questions if anyone is capable of answering them, that'd be great!



#1 - With every single setting in the bios set to auto aka Optimal Defaults, cpu voltage ranges/spikes from 0.4volts to almost 1.5volts, Even with EPU power setting enabled volts still spike to around 1.48volts even at idle.. i can run 3.9ghz while keeping every voltage set to auto, sure the temps do not reach over 60ºc EVER!!! but the high voltage just ..... well, I dont like it...

My current solution is to run at 3.8ghz with a slight voltage offset of +.05000 this makes my voltage range from 0.4v to 1.297volts with some spikes hitting 1.306volts I do not know why the voltages spike so high and so often with everything set to amd's default settings, but if the voltages are legit(reported by 4 different pieces of software including the bios) then does that mean even with everything set to auto my warranty is being voided by these voltages?!?!?! How can i keep everything at factory default settings while preventing the cpu from hitting almost 1.5volts?

#2 - I also have some issues understanding what some of the bios settings are and what the optimal settings for them should be since i am trying to keep my cpu at around 3.8-3.9ghz stable 24/7. my previous intel board was very difficult to overclock, this one seems easier but has a lot more settings any advice on these settings would be great!

VDDCR CPU Power Phase Control -Optimized/extreme
VDDCR CPU Switching Frequency 200khz-350khz
VDDCR CPU Load Line Calibration - auto,regular, medium, high, extreme
VDDCR SOC Load Line Calibration - auto, regular, high, extreme
What is SOC? I've heard increasing it's voltage can increase stability?

#3 - On my previous 1st gen i7, it took me months to get my 1600mhz rated ram to actually run at 1600mhz but once i finally did, i was able to overclock my 1600mhz ram to almost 1800mhz though i never really kept it there for long. With this new ryzen system, the 2400mhz rated ram runs at 2400mhz right out of the box, even without the memory profile, but any type of increase in memory speed will not post, anyone have suggestions on how to maybe get my 2400mhz ram to run at 2666mhz? or do we not think this is going to be possible at all, ever on a ryzen system?


thanks guys!!

P.s
just for reference, at my current 3.85ghz overclock, cpu sits at 63.13watts @ load and about 13watts @ idle, Idle temps are 32ºC, load temps are 62ºC cpu-z bench scores are 2292 single thread and 14722 multithread, scores higher than every intel reference listed in cpu-z including the 6950x

1 yes you are fine, and will not void warranties

3 possible but i suck at ram ocs sorry :/
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I almost gave my money to Newegg for a Ryzen rig. I still have the stuff in my cart. I am going to sleep on it. The only thing that stopped me was a 16 Gigabytes of memory cost almost as much as the the cpu or motherboard. Any good memory kits lower than $175 to $200?

Settle for 2933 for now and wait for ultimate realization in May. A 16 GB kit of Corsair Vengeance LPX CAS 16 3200 will only set you back $128. I am sure they will reach their 3200 spec in May.
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Settle for 2933 for now and wait for ultimate realization in May. A 16 GB kit of Corsair Vengeance LPX CAS 16 3200 will only set you back $128. I am sure they will reach their 3200 spec in May.

I can vouche for that ram its what saved my rig
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Originally Posted by Meintool View Post

Tried asking in the general AMD forum and was directed here, i know, i dont have a 1700+ but help is greatly appreciated ! smile.gif

I just recently upgraded my 9 year old core i7 920 and oh man does it feel fantastic!!


old system
CPU - 1st gen core i7 920 @3.7ghz
Cooler - Xigmatek Dark knight
MB - Intel DX58SO
Ram - 6gb G.Skill 1600mhz triple channel ddr3 9-9-9-24 1.66v
GPU - XFX radeon HD7770
PSU - Silverstone Decathlon 850w
HDD - 640gb WDC Black

New System
CPU - Ryzen 5 1600 @3.8ghz 1.29v-1.319v
Cooler - Amd Wraith Spire
MB - Asus Prime B350-Plus
Ram - 16gb G.Skill Flare- X 2400mhz Dual channel 16-16-16-39 1.2v
GPU - XFX Radeon RX480 8gb 1320mhz/2120mhz
PSU - Silverstone Decathlon 850w
SSD - Samsung 850 Evo 250gb
HDD - 640gb WDC black

Night and day difference between these two systems, the ryzen system is just...... oh so sweet and the intel system.... well, lets just say i give intel an A++ for longevity, but ADIOS!!! Good Riddance!! Intel will not be missed...


I'm still in the process of getting everything stable and playing with the overclocks, But I do have some questions if anyone is capable of answering them, that'd be great!



#1 - With every single setting in the bios set to auto aka Optimal Defaults, cpu voltage ranges/spikes from 0.4volts to almost 1.5volts, Even with EPU power setting enabled volts still spike to around 1.48volts even at idle.. i can run 3.9ghz while keeping every voltage set to auto, sure the temps do not reach over 60ºc EVER!!! but the high voltage just ..... well, I dont like it...

My current solution is to run at 3.8ghz with a slight voltage offset of +.05000 this makes my voltage range from 0.4v to 1.297volts with some spikes hitting 1.306volts I do not know why the voltages spike so high and so often with everything set to amd's default settings, but if the voltages are legit(reported by 4 different pieces of software including the bios) then does that mean even with everything set to auto my warranty is being voided by these voltages?!?!?! How can i keep everything at factory default settings while preventing the cpu from hitting almost 1.5volts?

#2 - I also have some issues understanding what some of the bios settings are and what the optimal settings for them should be since i am trying to keep my cpu at around 3.8-3.9ghz stable 24/7. my previous intel board was very difficult to overclock, this one seems easier but has a lot more settings any advice on these settings would be great!

VDDCR CPU Power Phase Control -Optimized/extreme
VDDCR CPU Switching Frequency 200khz-350khz
VDDCR CPU Load Line Calibration - auto,regular, medium, high, extreme
VDDCR SOC Load Line Calibration - auto, regular, high, extreme
What is SOC? I've heard increasing it's voltage can increase stability?

#3 - On my previous 1st gen i7, it took me months to get my 1600mhz rated ram to actually run at 1600mhz but once i finally did, i was able to overclock my 1600mhz ram to almost 1800mhz though i never really kept it there for long. With this new ryzen system, the 2400mhz rated ram runs at 2400mhz right out of the box, even without the memory profile, but any type of increase in memory speed will not post, anyone have suggestions on how to maybe get my 2400mhz ram to run at 2666mhz? or do we not think this is going to be possible at all, ever on a ryzen system?


thanks guys!!


At stock xfr is still enabled. It will turbo one core up, pushing vcore considerably higher. 1.5+ is possible but usually briefly on light loads. If it were all cores that would be different. What are you measuring with?

As for your voltages when overclocking. 1.306 is not high for ryzen. It'd actually be pretty decent at 3.8 and amazing at 3.9. Also doubtful of real stability . What are you stability testing it with?


Your ram will probably run faster., the part number it was sold with should be F4-xx00... (where x is a 2 digit number ) The full number could be tracked back to a product page where actual top speed and timings would be found.. Or it could be on the packaging.

As for the others

cpu load line calibration is a feature to compensate for droop, a tendancy for cpu voltage to drop under load. It helps keep those lows from happening and making your system unstable.

SoC is system on a chip. It refers to among other things native usb control, pcie lanes, memory controller and eventually , integrated graphics. It has a small role at present
soc llc would be the same calibration that we want for cpu's.
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what the absolute temp limit for ryzen? just hit 70c in a long gaming session so a bit concerned.

95 tctl non X chips.
95 tdie X chips.


And long game, NO blue screen! thumb.gif

You know we could have talked you through troubleshooting your neighborhood power grid. honest!
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Ryzen - Mythbusters R5/Taichi edition how to 32g dual rank.
https://youtu.be/MwM7HmREc5Y

Hi Chew,
liked the content of your vid but couldn't see any of the stuff you put in the bios and couldn't follow any of the benches in windws. You haveany screenshots of your settings ? That'll be great I'd like to play around with them
I'm running a 1700 on taichi with 4.1ghz with 1.418V but still troubles with RAM (currently with 3200 18-12-12-12-34, 2x16GB gskill CL14)
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What is the thermal shut down temp on these CPU's? I know the CPU will throttle if Tctrl shows over 95'C unless the core ratio exceeds 36 (1800x), but at what temp does it shut down sub 36 core ratio?
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