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You're luckier then, max I can do is two standard loops biggrin.gif

There's too much confusion regarding agesa version, Aida64 and HWInfo say it's 1.0.0.3, that's the one MSI had problems with, they removed all the links to some beta bios containing that microcode and they were banning people who posted it in their forums lol

Well I had relaxed timings tongue.gif But at least the website says 3200. Back when it said 2933 (what I am running now) I wondered if it would ever get faster.
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Well I had relaxed timings tongue.gif But at least the website says 3200. Back when it said 2933 (what I am running now) I wondered if it would ever get faster.

Yes I noticed that too, casually I was ranting about it on the asrock forums some days ago biggrin.gif http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4823&PID=27315&title=whats-the-agesa-edition-of-370killer-bios-20#27315

Oddly enough the X370 Fatal1ty Gaming K4 which is basically the same board with a few added extras still says 2933+ http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp
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post #9243 of 11536
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Originally Posted by ChronoBodi View Post

1700 would have the bigger OC headroom because of its low stock speeds in comparison to X models.

They all cap out at 3.8-3.9 ghz, realistically speaking with 24/7 daily OC.

Not true at all.

In fact I am not even sure where this commonly held opinion comes from.

A very large percentage of 1800x can run 4ghz 24/7 with no issues, I can run 4.0 on one, and 4.1 one the other.

There are big differences in binning between the lower tier CPU skus and the higher skus
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Not true at all.

In fact I am not even sure where this commonly held opinion comes from.

A very large percentage of 1800x can run 4ghz 24/7 with no issues, I can run 4.0 on one, and 4.1 one the other.

There are big differences in binning between the lower tier CPU skus and the higher skus

I too tested mine at 1.45v 4ghz was stable just not with my stock cooler temps. So backed it down to 3.8 1.35v
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Originally Posted by Gadfly View Post

Not true at all.

In fact I am not even sure where this commonly held opinion comes from.

A very large percentage of 1800x can run 4ghz 24/7 with no issues, I can run 4.0 on one, and 4.1 one the other.

There are big differences in binning between the lower tier CPU skus and the higher skus

I think what he means is that going from 3.0 stock to 3.8 OCed is a bigger gain than going from 3.6 stock to 4.0 OCed.
post #9246 of 11536
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I'm assuming the R5 1600x is just a CPU with two weak cores that are disabled/cut but still meets the requirements of the higher binning for 1600x speed/TDP
Thanks for that, it's kind of what I figured. Just a coin toss as to what you get?

Interesting.

The reviews also claim 1600x gets full XFR (same as the 1800x).
Base: 3.6
Boost: 4.0
Boost & XFR: 4.1

If XFR can boost it to 4.1 without errors occurring on 1 or 2 cores. I don't understand why 4.1 wouldn't be attainable on all cores (as long as you kept the temperature within an XFR only scenario) I.E. a good custom loop. Or water chiller. Theoretically; you'd assume that to be the case.
OR
is XFR set to always run on the same cores (I.E. the ones found to be strongest during binning process).?
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/18/17 at 12:21pm
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Source, page 9, this PDF.
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Definitely deserves more investigation. The 1600x could be on par with the 1800x for the greatest *chance* at a route to 4.0GHZ / 4.1GHZ on Ryzen.
(I.E. you have more chance getting to 4.1 with a 1600x than any other chip except the 1800x).


Wouldn't be bad, for half the price. And still 12 threads.
And '"almost " identical performance as the £580 bux 'i7 6850k'
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/18/17 at 12:29pm
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So far all I have read where cores are disabled on a R7 don't highlight "phenomenal" gain in OC ability. It's more like the same as without disabling.

As I'm pretty much wrapped up with what I need for 24/7 OC (3.8GHz) and what I will use for say a bench run (4.0GHz). I don't regard my 3.9GHz / 4.0GHz OC profiles 24/7 stable, but pretty sure the 3.9GHz would be considered 24/7 stable by others wink.gif . My 4.0GHz could well be stable in another books as well wink.gif .

I'll try cores disabled, then SMT, etc. I doubt I'll see a phenomenal gain, will report back, starting testing tonight wink.gif .
Edited by gupsterg - 4/18/17 at 12:32pm
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Hey guys, my 1700 4 GHZ overclock is a success rock solid game stable. Temps are below 60C while playing. Im thinking 1.45 volts on auto with no LLC is safe for 24/7 but I want to get other peoples opinions on this. How safe is it? Voltage does go up to 1.48 during gaming but thats the highest. Thanks in advance.

1.45v is the breakdown voltage for Summit Ridge. I wouldn't recommend that as a 24/7 OC. Try for 3950 MHz with maybe 1.43v?
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