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You still have 8 physical cores, that counts for a lot. And as it ages I guarantee it will outrun the 7700k or any other 4-6 core chip.

My 1700 can do 4.1 with 1.5V. which is kinda nuts. But I'm running 3.95 @ 1.375v on water as my daily. *fine tuning might help a bit.*

If all you're worried about is gaming right now I'd get a 7700,7600 or wait for the 7740. Those will run your games with ~10-20fps higher, but do you really need it?

I just got out of a 6950x @ 4.3Ghz with 1.35V and it's not so different for gaming and about 90% the same for the rendering in premier I do. I'm very pleased with the lower temps/power usage on my 1700. thumb.gif



Sure Ryzen doesn't do crazy 5ghz clock speeds just yet. But that's not to say that Zen2 won't be better, and there's rumors of R9 12, 16, core and 24 core chips coming as well. If that doesn't get you excited then idk what to say.


I hope every game in the future uses 8 cores....
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I haven't been keeping up that closely. I found out that my motherboard was in fact bricked. What motherboard would you guys recommend right now in the under 200usd segment?

I'm curious, how was it bricked and do you remember which bios it was on?

200 is Taichi range. Tops everything at that price, stepping down you find x370 pro from asus, probably best at its price point. Lower than that start looking at features...
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AX370 Gaming 5 just did something odd. I got a bluescreen x0101 stop meaning RAM. Restarted and noticed my OC values were different (Lower) and my Bios version went from F3 to F4. I know for a fact I have been using the release BIOS from the backup bios switch and now it appears its like it auto updated to F4??? Anyone experience this?

you had f4 on the other bios? Gigabyte's do this thing when they decide your active bios is bad...
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I'm curious, how was it bricked and do you remember which bios it was on?

200 is Taichi range. Tops everything at that price, stepping down you find x370 pro from asus, probably best at its price point. Lower than that start looking at features...

I believe i was on 0509 BIOS. I don't really know how it bricked, it was running ok until i turned it on at my new place and it just didn't post anymore. I did have it OC'd, and i forgot to put it to stock before moved it (i have no idea if this a valid precaution, but i usually do it anyway)... but yea. Took it to a shop for them to test and all the other parts worked with a different motherboard. So yea...
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Not true at all.

In fact I am not even sure where this commonly held opinion comes from.

A very large percentage of 1800x can run 4ghz 24/7 with no issues, I can run 4.0 on one, and 4.1 one the other.

There are big differences in binning between the lower tier CPU skus and the higher skus

I think what he means is that going from 3.0 stock to 3.8 OCed is a bigger gain than going from 3.6 stock to 4.0 OCed.

Just because he has more headroom, does not mean there are bigger gains. 1800x may have less headroom before 4.0 but if you have a good chip and a good cooling solution(loop or chiller) then there is a touch more headroom for the 1800x. Whereas the 1700 (x) may have tapped out at 4.0/3.8.

1800x specs out at 4.0 but that doesn't mean it won't go higher. wink.gif

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Just because he has more headroom, does not mean there are bigger gains. 1800x may have less headroom before 4.0 but if you have a good chip and a good cooling solution(loop or chiller) then there is a touch more headroom for the 1800x. Whereas the 1700 (x) may have tapped out at 4.0/3.8.

1800x specs out at 4.0 but that doesn't mean it won't go higher. wink.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Correction...its specs out at 3.6...

By your analogy 1600x specs out @ 4.0 as well so should do 4.0 on each.

The reality is this is not actually the case.

Its specced to run 3.6 with turbo bouncing around cores and xfr boosting to 4.1...mine if its lucky might do 3.9...but more likely 3.8...it was hard pressed to do cinebench at 4.0...

However....the 1800x for the top end in general yes is a better bin.

Ln2 results are proving this quite well.

The r5 are a hot mess clocks wise totally a mixxed bag...

I totally expected 1600 to be decent and its probably my worst chip.

Be very lucky if it can do 3.5....

1500x lucky if 3.6

1600x lucky if 3.8.

Then my 1400 comes along and has already proven itself prime stable @ 4050...4600 booted on single stage phase with a quick test.

Granted 4c4t less but its beating my 1800x in stability testing...

Its actually my best chip so far in prime 95...

Some chips are so bad...the best you can do is try undervolting and just running them stock...not even worth bothering to OC them...
Edited by chew* - 4/19/17 at 11:29pm
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Giga K7,biostar gt7, Msi titanium biggrin.gif

Will have to fix that problem soon lol.

I have 1 of each cpu sku...helps when working with mobo vendors to have 1 of each sku cpu on hand for debugging purposes.

For example 1700 had some weird bugs not present on the 1700x,1800x which was related to the lack of xfr.

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Here we go not realistic 24/7 but just to show scaling from pure hardware tuning ( keep in mind..my memory sux pretty bad for B die )......no software tuning cuz I have no clue with this benchmark lol.......

4gig is not my limit btw just trying to stay at 4gig for cpc comparisons sake........I can always go up to 5 gig range if you really want me to wink.gif


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I like my little 1400 biggrin.gif its so cute redface.gif


Nice, on a side note, If amd had a proper m-itx board at launch I would'v went that way... frown.gif

You proved your point... But I still think my hardware is shinny-er .. + RGB makes it faster biggrin.gif
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Is there a setting like Intel speed step on this board? I don't really need my cpu running full blast all the time, it'd be nice to get some even nicer idle temps. thumb.gif
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Is there a setting like Intel speed step on this board? I don't really need my cpu running full blast all the time, it'd be nice to get some even nicer idle temps. thumb.gif

iirc there is PowerSave in the BIOS, then it uses pstates to downclock
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iirc there is PowerSave in the BIOS, then it uses pstates to downclock

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