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Stay away from the Windows utility in the Future, it has a history of failing 😉

ya I read that after I started to look into it because it was taking so long to update got me kinda scared. Glad it finished up though and all is ok. Will definitely be doing usb stick option from now on.
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4.3gig valid on the cheapest possible chip.......CH6 must be the best board evah now rolleyes.gif



Took me a total of 1 minute to boot at 4.3 and kill that issue.....

https://valid.x86.fr/4lgzbl

Lets here the arguments now?

Now that the validation is no longer crutch I cant wait to hear why titanium is a better board or better value
Edited by chew* - 4/20/17 at 8:08am
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does the board have external clock generator? if no, there's no way to have adjustable bclk even with bios update

In the context of what bios updates could yield for mobo's without BCLK clock gen chip you may wish to see this and also this.
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In the context of what bios updates could yield for mobo's without BCLK clock gen chip you may wish to see this and also this.

wow thanks! i skipped that one
i wonder if there's way to unlink the PCIe clock now..

waiting an update for this bclk on my prime board wheee.gif
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I totally disagree with him on the vrm issue.The vrm phasing may be a little lower than Crosshair VI, but the vrm components have better specs and the heatsink is superior, thus making it equal or superior to the Crosshair VI vrm. Check which board has the highest overclock overall. It is an MSI Xpower 370 Titanium at 4.293 GHZ. The vrm runs cooler on the Titanium because of its superior heat sink vs Asus Crosshair VI. The board has steel reinforcement for dimm slots,something NOT offered by Asus Crosshair VI. The bclock issue remains cloudy.Whether it is hardware based or just inadequate bios support from MSI.I would say bios support as a general issue is a bit better from Asus. My assessment is the MSI is superior to Asus Crosshair VI from a construction standpoint and quality is as good or slightly better. Asus has a small edge on bios support. Whether it desreves to be priced $44 higher than Asus Crosshair VI is another question.It certainly deserves a higher price. Oh I forgot that it is also FAR better looking than the Crosshair VI.

If you're referring to the spreadsheet in OP, that's my validation. My buddy has an 1800x on a Crosshair board and I can guarantee you could get the same validation, or even slightly better. I don't think the difference in 50MHz core clock is a determining factor in which board is better.

I do agree on some things, namely that the board looks good and the reinforced slots are nice.
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All of the boards with adjustable baseclock have a physical chip built in to do that.

Asus Crosshair VI TPU (TurboV Processing Unit IIRC)

I don't know for certain, but I'm willing to bet that we aren't going to be seeing adjustable baseclock on the Titanium as a BIOS update.
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4293 is a validation...a validation...like read it one more time valdation. Meaning suicide screenshot stable...

I ran time spy at 4250....how high do you think i could validate if i could run a multithreaded cpu test at 4250 wink.gif

BD validates at 8 gig plus on ln2
..most real benchers wont do valids on a low clocking chip lol...

Im just going to load up my $80 clearance rack board and end that stupid cpu-z issue for this thread...

To be fair I did run a benchmark at 4.3GHz biggrin.gif But you're absolutely right.


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In the context of what bios updates could yield for mobo's without BCLK clock gen chip you may wish to see this and also this.

I take that back. Wow, thanks for sharing thumb.gif
Edited by Skyl3r - 4/20/17 at 8:18am
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If you're referring to the spreadsheet in OP, that's my validation. My buddy has an 1800x on a Crosshair board and I can guarantee you could get the same validation, or even slightly better. I don't think the difference in 50MHz core clock is a determining factor in which board is better.

I do agree on some things, namely that the board looks good and the reinforced slots are nice.

All of the boards with adjustable baseclock have a physical chip built in to do that.

Asus Crosshair VI TPU (TurboV Processing Unit IIRC)

I don't know for certain, but I'm willing to bet that we aren't going to be seeing adjustable baseclock on the Titanium as a BIOS update.
To be fair I did run a benchmark at 4.3GHz biggrin.gif But you're absolutely right.


EDIT
I take that back. Wow, thanks for sharing thumb.gif

I just did it above booted 4.3 but yah i am not currently reccomending or defending any boards.

Tbh they all have issues and all have strengths.

Unfortunately some msi guys (not you) are preaching that cpu-z result as religion of why titanium is better so i had to end that problem wink.gif

Now maybe the debate can come back to reality and leave lala land.

Btw i am in no way claiming the ch6 is the best board was just being sarcatic...validation means nothing until the top end of the scale and even then...its suicide...
Edited by chew* - 4/20/17 at 8:25am
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I just did it above booted 4.3 but yah i am not currently reccomending or defending any boards.

Tbh they all have issues and all have strengths.

Unfortunately some msi guys (not you) are preaching that cpu-z result as religion of why titanium is better so i had to end that problem wink.gif

Now maybe the debate can come back to reality and leave lala land.

You know if you beat my clock I'm gonna have to beat you again. I know I have a 4.4 validation laying around here somewhere biggrin.gif
Give those MSI fans something to worship! biggrin.gif

Oh, you already did. And now it begins!
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Originally Posted by Skyl3r View Post

You know if you beat my clock I'm gonna have to beat you again. I know I have a 4.4 validation laying around here somewhere biggrin.gif
Give those MSI fans something to worship! biggrin.gif

Oh, you already did. And now it begins!

I have phase change in reserve but that was air wink.gif
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I have phase change in reserve but that was air wink.gif

Well, the 4.3 was on water. When I benchmarked it... it wasn't water...

Sounds like the race is on. A few 1800x's may die, but the show must go on! MSI fans need their deity back!
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@Skyl3r

NP thumb.gif .

@sakae48

Nope, BCLK = PCI-E, this and this. The workaround that C6H has I do not know how is done, but it [auto] drops PCI-E gen, but also gen can be forced IIRC, BCLK = PCI-E regardless.
Edited by gupsterg - 4/20/17 at 8:35am
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