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That's why most are using offset mode for vcore that is applied on top of the VID corresponding to the pstate. At least until modifying the VID in the pstates itself becomes an option. AFAIK only lowering a pstates VID is working correctly right now.

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Have you increased the voltage?

Higher than 1.35? Already showing 1.36 in the bios, why would I need higher then that for 3000 rated memory at that speed?
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Trying to contact MSI support too, figures their god damn website took a **** soon as I assembled this thing. Just my luck.
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Trying to contact MSI support too, figures their god damn website took a **** soon as I assembled this thing. Just my luck.

ryzen won't take odd number cas entered for speeds over 2400. It'll adjust up.
There's no 3000mhz table. Hence the absence in your bios.
More recent bios versions have had some limited success in expanding ram compatibility although the very latest has had highly mixed results.
It may be possible to get to 2933 but it'll take a wee bit of work and as one of our members likes to say, 'baby steps' are more likely to get you there.

Start by loosening your timings, starting with the spd you're at with 2400. Just a few bumps. restart. Boots? Then up the mhz. boots?
If first bumps to timing fail, loosen further. restart.. if looser timing works but higher speed does not, loosen further or up voltage. small steps. 1.37 for example given that you're at 1.36 .
The big jump to your desired speed/timings in one shot can fail where baby steps can get you there.
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ryzen won't take odd number cas entered for speeds over 2400. It'll adjust up.
There's no 3000mhz table. Hence the absence in your bios.
More recent bios versions have had some limited success in expanding ram compatibility although the very latest has had highly mixed results.
It may be possible to get to 2933 but it'll take a wee bit of work and as one of our members likes to say, 'baby steps' are more likely to get you there.

Start by loosening your timings, starting with the spd you're at with 2400. Just a few bumps. restart. Boots? Then up the mhz. boots?
If first bumps to timing fail, loosen further. restart.. if looser timing works but higher speed does not, loosen further or up voltage. small steps. 1.37 for example given that you're at 1.36 .
The big jump to your desired speed/timings in one shot can fail where baby steps can get you there.

Won't take odd numbers? lol what the hell? Well that's curious. I don't have access to a full list of timings in the BIOS, only the primary ones that you would edit as listed in the SPD. So if there are other values that are odd, there isnt much im going to be able to do with that, ill try to adjust to even numbers and give that a go though.

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Won't take odd numbers? lol what the hell? Well that's curious. I don't have access to a full list of timings in the BIOS, only the primary ones that you would edit as listed in the SPD. So if there are other values that are odd, there isnt much im going to be able to do with that, ill try to adjust to even numbers and give that a go though.


It won't take odd CAS. Others fine, CAS? No. Why? Hellifiknow.

We can only edit primary and we're stuck with 1T. Bclk adjustments can be used to work around but access to bclk without a generator is only recently enabled and pcie is not unlinked so takes a hit in reliability at relatively low adjustment.

-edit When loosening your timings use the numbers it's currently operating at as your baseline. It booted with them after all. thumb.gif
Edited by yendor - 4/20/17 at 2:10pm
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It won't take odd CAS. Others fine, CAS? No. Why? Hellifiknow.

We can only edit primary and we're stuck with 1T. Bclk adjustments can be used to work around but access to bclk without a generator is only recently enabled and pcie is not unlinked so takes a hit in reliability at relatively low adjustment.

-edit When loosening your timings use the numbers it's currently operating at as your baseline. It booted with them after all. thumb.gif

I've been messing with it but hasn't booted with anything thus far. Been as high as 20. I'll have to post a pic of what I have access to.
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I've been messing with it but hasn't booted with anything thus far. Been as high as 20. I'll have to post a pic of what I have access to.

Post what you started with. ~16 16 16 36 etc and what you tried to change it to in same format.
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And on the other page keep my 41 multi? so it will downclock between what I set there from 41 pending load?

No, you leave that [Auto]. You use one method or other. Do not mix both.

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I see. If it's just down clocking and not downvolting what the point?
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That's why most are using offset mode for vcore that is applied on top of the VID corresponding to the pstate. At least until modifying the VID in the pstates itself becomes an option. AFAIK only lowering a pstates VID is working correctly right now.

^^^^ this smile.gif .

Like explained before alucardis666 you can use manual voltage if you want, but no downvolting will occur. It just offers safety.

I am not too concerned I get ~1.5V on borked boot due to using offset. If I was using a larger offset I would be concerned. But do not use my measure of what is OK as OK for yourself, so your CPU, your decision.

As my system is not having a "Sleep" issue, which others can have, I use that option.

a) instant "go to" desktop.
b) yet to have borked resume resulting in ~1.5V, even if on OC of 3.8GHz +162mV 3200MHz C14.
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Post what you started with. ~16 16 16 36 etc and what you tried to change it to in same format.

It boots at 2133 15-15-15-35 i can boot it at 2400 and it auto changes to 15-17-17-35 but i have to manually set the voltage to 1.35
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