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a) Why not? smile.gif , I guess their format of site is just different from Intel.
b) I have always used drivers for x device from manufacturer and not board vendor. Some of the Asus SW comes across as "bloatware" when comparing download size. IIRC one time there was discussion why their driver is 1GB download vs less. It may have had AMD GPU driver but but not sure and did not check.
c) I think I've explained my POV within answers 'a' & 'b' for 'c' smile.gif .
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a) Why does AMD have a webpage for chipset drivers?
b) Would AMD's chipset drivers be different from what is shown on say Asus' webpage for ones mobo?
c) If saying yes to 'b, why 'a'? smile.gif

A) It's "their" chipset?
B) ... since it's asus. go find the download page for the ab350m-a/csm and your answer will become very self evident.
C) pi
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The CPU score in Time spy and the Combined score in FS are both on the low side. That is indicative of low frequency memory with loose timings.

Ryzen has two hurdles that it has to cross, firstly is that as a System on a chip and not a monolithic CPU like Intel, it has what AMD refers to as the Infinity Fabric, which is basically like a network that connects the two ccx modules to the Memory controller and an IO hub. The bandwidth of the infinity fabric is directly related to the installed Ram Frequency.  The other hurdle is that design tends to have quite high memory latency. The end result, if you have slow Ram with high cas timings is a system with sluggish gaming performance.

If you can overclock the Ram and tighten the timings those scores will improve. As I found out this morning, If and when the b350 Bios ever gets the chance to adjust the refclk, and I am not sure that it ever will, You can also increase that while dropping the cpu multiplier and memory divider and you will get even more improvements.

Did i make a bad choice going with 3000mhz 2x4gb because price was a big factor, didn't wanna pay 120+ for 16gb when i wont use it
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For all those interested (not sure if it was posted yet) new am4 chipset driver from AMD, comes with the ryzen power plan as well.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows%2010%20-%2064
    
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Did i make a bad choice going with 3000mhz 2x4gb because price was a big factor, didn't wanna pay 120+ for 16gb when i wont use it

Not necessarily. Depends on what you do, what the programs you are going to use work best with. Mostly that's available under recommended system requirements.
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Not necessarily. Depends on what you do, what the programs you are going to use work best with. Mostly that's available under recommended system requirements.

managed to squeeze 2667 down to 14-14-14-34 per your recommendation, ill run firestrike and timespy again to see if it improved any.

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went from 4455 to 4468 in timespy, meh results.
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Ram does not matter nearly as much with mid range video cards, thats why i was cool with keeping my 3200 kit that is stuck at 2400 instead of keeping the 4000 kit that posted at 2933. Should get fixed eventually either way, but even if it doesn't i know the gains are minimal at best.
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went from 4455 to 4468 in timespy, meh results.

Changing latency wont do much but considering ryzen uses half ram speed for data fabric the speed matters more then on intel. The higher you go you'll see improvements. Synthetic benchmarks made for gpus dont test the cpu enough nor do they need more then a couole cores. Try it in bf1 or anything cpu intensive youll see a difference. I did in firestrike going from 2933 to 3200

Small boost but still a boost.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12356866/fs/12094988

And in one game. The 2933 and 3200mhz are in bold.

i5 4690k/r7 1700x/r7 1700x 3.8ghz, 2933mhz(hp)/balanced / 3200 hp

Grid Autosport.
Min 86.98 / 69.90 / 82.35 / 82.733 / 87.43
Avg 111.84 / 95.30 / 107.15 / 107.68 / 111.19
Max 156.24 / 132.85 / 139.34 / 142.75 / 144.63
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went from 4455 to 4468 in timespy, meh results.

CPU Score may have improved more noticeably. If you're still at stock clocks you're going to see the meh numbers. Especially if you looked at a well tuned system, not just ram, when you're just starting.

Still at stock clocks with the cpu?
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