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CPU Score may have improved more noticeably. If you're still at stock clocks you're going to see the meh numbers. Especially if you looked at a well tuned system, not just ram, when you're just starting.

Still at stock clocks with the cpu?

Yes, still on the stock block of aluminum they call a CPU cooler for these things. Decided to go with air cooling since these things dont really OC well beyond 3.9-4.0, a cheap water cooling system in this setup would be 10x more expensive for no reason. Waiting on a Dark Rock 3 to come in from amazon.
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Changing latency wont do much but considering ryzen uses half ram speed for data fabric the speed matters more then on intel. The higher you go you'll see improvements. Synthetic benchmarks made for gpus dont test the cpu enough nor do they need more then a couole cores. Try it in bf1 or anything cpu intensive youll see a difference. I did in firestrike going from 2933 to 3200

Small boost but still a boost.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12356866/fs/12094988

And in one game. The 2933 and 3200mhz are in bold.

i5 4690k/r7 1700x/r7 1700x 3.8ghz, 2933mhz(hp)/balanced / 3200 hp

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Avg 111.84 / 95.30 / 107.15 / 107.68 / 111.19
Max 156.24 / 132.85 / 139.34 / 142.75 / 144.63

cracked that 12k mark at least with the tighter timings

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Yes, still on the stock block of aluminum they call a CPU cooler for these things. Decided to go with air cooling since these things dont really OC well beyond 3.9-4.0, a cheap water cooling system in this setup would be 10x more expensive for no reason. Waiting on a Dark Rock 3 to come in from amazon.

That is the same reason i decided to keep the stock cooler lol. Im happy with 3800 and saving money on a cooler, plus this one looks good.
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cracked that 12k mark at least with the tighter timings


I do that when i OC my r9 390 to 1100/1600 lol. See the physics difference though. P.S. Ram wasn't at 3200mhz for that run either, i should give one a try with 3200mhz see what i get.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12235762
    
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cracked that 12k mark at least with the tighter timings
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see what you picked up in physics?
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see what you picked up in physics?

1 fps? lol
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1 fps? lol

500 points?
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The CPU score in Time spy and the Combined score in FS are both on the low side. That is indicative of low frequency memory with loose timings.

Ryzen has two hurdles that it has to cross, firstly is that as a System on a chip and not a monolithic CPU like Intel, it has what AMD refers to as the Infinity Fabric, which is basically like a network that connects the two ccx modules to the Memory controller and an IO hub. The bandwidth of the infinity fabric is directly related to the installed Ram Frequency.  The other hurdle is that design tends to have quite high memory latency. The end result, if you have slow Ram with high cas timings is a system with sluggish gaming performance.

If you can overclock the Ram and tighten the timings those scores will improve. As I found out this morning, If and when the b350 Bios ever gets the chance to adjust the refclk, and I am not sure that it ever will, You can also increase that while dropping the cpu multiplier and memory divider and you will get even more improvements.

Did i make a bad choice going with 3000mhz 2x4gb because price was a big factor, didn't wanna pay 120+ for 16gb when i wont use it

Sorry, I honestly don't know. You are the first Ryzen owner I know who has only 8GB Ram installed. Is your Ram on the Asus b350 QVL?

 

My first instinct would be to say that as you get to know your hardware better, you will work out a way to tighten the ram timings up further. Don't be afraid to experiment with your ram settings. The worst that can happen is that it wont boot and you will need to reset the bios to defaults and set it up again. 

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cracked that 12k mark at least with the tighter timings


I do that when i OC my r9 390 to 1100/1600 lol. See the physics difference though. P.S. Ram wasn't at 3200mhz for that run either, i should give one a try with 3200mhz see what i get.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12235762

 

He is only on a 1600, not a 1700 so I would expect the physics score to be lower than yours but better than 15K. Your combined score is at about what I what I would expect and comparable with a 6800K/390 rig His combined should be at 5000 or so

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Changing latency wont do much but considering ryzen uses half ram speed for data fabric the speed matters more then on intel. The higher you go you'll see improvements. Synthetic benchmarks made for gpus dont test the cpu enough nor do they need more then a couole cores. Try it in bf1 or anything cpu intensive youll see a difference. I did in firestrike going from 2933 to 3200

Small boost but still a boost.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12356866/fs/12094988

And in one game. The 2933 and 3200mhz are in bold.

i5 4690k/r7 1700x/r7 1700x 3.8ghz, 2933mhz(hp)/balanced / 3200 hp

Grid Autosport.
Min 86.98 / 69.90 / 82.35 / 82.733 / 87.43
Avg 111.84 / 95.30 / 107.15 / 107.68 / 111.19
Max 156.24 / 132.85 / 139.34 / 142.75 / 144.63

cracked that 12k mark at least with the tighter timings

Getting better. The higher combined score is the indicator that you are doing the right things with memory settings.

 

Faster ram does increase the Data Fabric bandwidth and get you going in the correct direction. solving the latency problem is the other half of the equation. It is what Chew* has been able to solve by using the lower memory dividers and higher refclk. unfortunately that is not an option open to you right now.

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