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Originally Posted by rt123 View Post

Extreme cooling does not do that. Likely user fault or faulty product.
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I regard Skyl3r to have experience, so not user fault wink.gif .
So my vote manufacturing fault wink.gif .
Thank you smile.gif

It is a valid point though. I'll contact MSI, but I don't have a high expectation that they'll accept a replacement/refund.
I will say that I've had a healthy quantity of graphics cards in a healthy quantity of motherboards and I've never seen anything like this. I assumed it was probably my fault as I did a lot of non-standard stuff; but it still amazed me at how it popped off.
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Cold does weird thing when mixed materiasls are involved. He mentioned chill box so the whole board was cold. I have seen things shrink so much that thermal pads feel out of my GPU just from benching outside at -10°
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Have used several boards under ln2. Yes weird things happen, but slots don't come off. Ripped 1 slot till today & that was because I forgot to put proper padding under the GPU pot, so the slot got to bear some of the weight of a Tek-9 FAT. redface.gif

I'm pretty sure faulty board from the factory.
post #9534 of 10460
Metal shrinks/expands much more than PCB material with temp changes. Extreme cold for LN2 needs to be localized. If it had been used It could have caused physical failure of the solder joints by pulling them away from the board. That said, MSI does claim this board as suitable for LN2, but that is often considered to be suicide runs so I don't know what they will do about it. Worth checking though as that *should* have been far enough away as to not have been impacted.
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Originally Posted by Skyl3r View Post

I'm not an MSI fan and I'm not an MSI hater. The position doesn't make sense to me. I'm a good motherboard fan.

I've never had one die on me. (hm, maybe 1, did not kill anything else) Can't say the same for others. Oldest motherboard I have that's still used is an msi. I cannot retire the damn thing without someone needing a loaner. (occasionally me) and out of the closet, garage, attic it comes. 12 - 13 years old and thousands of hours on all the components. Ah the good old days.
Edited by yendor - 4/21/17 at 11:33am
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What's ya oldest @yendor ? I have Q6600/P5K from launch, still used for stuff. I did ~175hrs continuous f@h on Fury X with it few months back.
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Thank you smile.gif

It is a valid point though. I'll contact MSI, but I don't have a high expectation that they'll accept a replacement/refund.
I will say that I've had a healthy quantity of graphics cards in a healthy quantity of motherboards and I've never seen anything like this. I assumed it was probably my fault as I did a lot of non-standard stuff; but it still amazed me at how it popped off.


Its not like you ran the vga on ln2?

Im guessing you ran dry ice on cpu?

That should not break a pci slot.

Cold/heat cycles will stretch traces near socket eventually and cause reliability issues but usually get 5 or more cycles before you have issues. But that applies mostly to ln2...dry ice really not cold enough to warp boards.

Once again though if no di or ln2 on vga i fail to see how a cold board should have an issue. I tossed mine outside window in winter like many...

No issues.
Edited by chew* - 4/21/17 at 11:53am
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Its not like you ran the vga on ln2?

Im guessing you ran dry ice on cpu?

That should not break a pci slot.

Cold/heat cycles will stretch traces near socket eventually and cause reliability issues but usually get 5 or more cycles before you have issues. But that applies mostly to ln2...dry ice really not cold enough to warp boards.

Once again though if no di or ln2 on vga i fail to see how a cold board should have an issue. I tossed mine outside window in winter like many...

No issues.

The DICE comment was more to explain why I thought the warranty is probably voided. It was the bottom slot, so I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have got more than a cool breeze from the dry ice. I was wondering if the chillbox could have loosened up an adhesive or something like that.

I'm not sure.
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The DICE comment was more to explain why I thought the warranty is probably voided. It was the bottom slot, so I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have got more than a cool breeze from the dry ice. I was wondering if the chillbox could have loosened up an adhesive or something like that.

I'm not sure.

I doubt it ive run boards in a confined box blowing ac in no issues.

Could be a one off random defect.

Less we hear more reports of same issue i would roll with poor quality control due to a rushed launch.

Not like we don't already know this applies to all vendors.
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I vote.factory defect given all the information I waded through. PCIe slots have been known to pull away from boards when no Extreme cooling has been used. So it's not like this has never happened in the past. mellowsmiley.gif

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