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Well try this. Set your bios defaults.
Save reboot.

Set cpu speed save reboot.
Set memory timings manually not by xmp leave mem speed auto. Save reboot
Move your mem speed up one at a time.
2666 save reboot.
2933 save reboot.
3200 save reboot.

Ryzen is picky and dislikes alot of changes at once.

I will give it a try later....right now I'm not sure what happened. All I did was reboot and nothing but a black screen, monitors never did get a signal. I used a jumper and reset the CMOS. Restarted, and it powered up, shut down, powered up, shut down, finally powered up and loaded Windows. Also, I know HWiNFO isn't the most accurate, but when it's finishing loading Windows, I see VID voltage of 1.55v(temps shoot up too). Once everything is loaded, it drops way down. Right now with no load, it's showing .963v.

Should I be concerned?

FYI, thanks for the feedback. I've been following this thread, and it seems like you are one of the top "knowers". biggrin.gif
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Ever used DI or ln2/lhe for that matter?

It was the last slot that pulled out...even a glacier ln2 or lhe bench session would never even remotely get the lower slot cool much less dry ice.

This is actually my system, my photos of stuff i have actually and personally done..so i can speak from experience and not hypothesize...

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/?Qwd=./MichiganEvent-1/Benching&Qif=IMG_0044.JPG&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M

Running components on board keep even slot 1 warm unless you have a gpu on ln2 as well which he did not.

Shoving a board outside in winter as many have has never caused pci slots to rip out of a board.

Hell ive poured dry ice and ln2 directly on board even piled it on...no issues..

It clearly had a defect as like any vendor could have.

Nobody or company is perfect...

I agree it's likely a vendor. My point was that if he did either of those in a cold box the entire system would have reached extreme low temps and that certainly could cause issues. It *shouldn't* under most circumstances.

As DI, my experience is limited to using it to cool concentric magnetic field shaping rings suspended between acrylic spacers for a pulsed power electron beam system (diameter over 6'), but that was a couple of decades ago...
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Haha I have mine in the box too, could never bring myself to get rid of it. That guy on the box looks so happy working on it. I think the old vic games would run just a pinch too fast at 4ghz sonic.gif

My buddy had a VIC 20, I had an Amiga 1000 a few years later. No longer have it but still have some of the manuals. Jay Miner was ahead of his time. That was an amazing system!
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Well try this. Set your bios defaults.
Save reboot.

Set cpu speed save reboot.
Set memory timings manually not by xmp leave mem speed auto. Save reboot
Move your mem speed up one at a time.
2666 save reboot.
2933 save reboot.
3200 save reboot.

Ryzen is picky and dislikes alot of changes at once.
Is this worth trying on any motherboard?
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That method a few owners have used/shared. Some "setups" just seem to train better that way. Even noted what is classed as "higher end" board owners doing that.

The Stilt states "DRAM training process is EXTREMELY complex on Zeppelin, way above anything I know.".
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Well try this. Set your bios defaults.
Save reboot.

Set cpu speed save reboot.
Set memory timings manually not by xmp leave mem speed auto. Save reboot
Move your mem speed up one at a time.
2666 save reboot.
2933 save reboot.
3200 save reboot.

Ryzen is picky and dislikes alot of changes at once.
Is this worth trying on any motherboard?

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That method a few owners have used/shared. Some "setups" just seem to train better that way. Even noted what is classed as "higher end" board owners doing that.

The Stilt states "DRAM training process is EXTREMELY complex on Zeppelin, way above anything I know.".

That's what I do, it really can help during the initial stages of setup for new ram sticks.Even last night wanted to try two different samsung based kits 3600 and 4266 together for 32GB 4x8 set-up and that's what I did.


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Is this worth trying on any motherboard?
Yes its more a ryzen thing than a motherboard thing.
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I will give it a try later....right now I'm not sure what happened. All I did was reboot and nothing but a black screen, monitors never did get a signal. I used a jumper and reset the CMOS. Restarted, and it powered up, shut down, powered up, shut down, finally powered up and loaded Windows. Also, I know HWiNFO isn't the most accurate, but when it's finishing loading Windows, I see VID voltage of 1.55v(temps shoot up too). Once everything is loaded, it drops way down. Right now with no load, it's showing .963v.

Should I be concerned?

FYI, thanks for the feedback. I've been following this thread, and it seems like you are one of the top "knowers". biggrin.gif

That is XFR and turbo kicking in. AMD is extremely agressive with volts on R5.

I reccomend manual oc and 1.40 set manually.
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With the lpx its also about soc voltage. Mine will need a single boot loop to run at 3200mhz but it does so with 1.35dram/dramboot voltage and soc at 1.15, anything below 1.15 and it wont post, and anything above it gives me qcode errors.

The gigabyte g5 is a bit different but soc voltage is key for ram.

I see a lot of talk about soc voltage,I know that is NOT the term used for it in the bios. Are you meaning core voltage or what other setting?.There is no "soc" voltage setting in my bios. I presume soc means socket,but as I said there is no such listing in the bios.
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That is XFR and turbo kicking in. AMD is extremely agressive with volts on R5.

I reccomend manual oc and 1.40 set manually.

OK.

Now another issue....I made a few runs of RealBench earlier, and the max temps were around 55°. Nothing changed(cooler wise), in fact, I lowered the clocks to 3525mhz, now I'm seeing temps of 78°. Something weird is going on, just can't put my finger on it. As I said, lowering the clock made the temps shoot up. Voltages were the same as before too. Odd....to me anyway.

I'll keep messing and see what I can figure out.
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