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That's why I bought mine in November. It was still $160 even back then. It's like $200 now.
Hmm. My NH-D15 is more than sufficient to keep my chip cool @ 4.0 GHz. Running 1.35v + LLC Level 1 (1.392v actual load) I get max Tctl of 91.3/Tdie of 71.3 and CPU/socket of 48.5C. And that's running an AVX workload like y-cruncher, which is as nasty as it's gonna get.
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You call an "h100i" watercooling? I also don't see what a cold climate has to do with anything. Ambient temps would not effect an air cooler any differently than it would an AIO or closed loop or whatever you want to call it.

Both good points, and i must say, watercooling doesn't benefit the cpu much believe it or not. I saw barely temp drops going from a NH-U14s to a custom loop with a 360 and 240mm rads. Where i saw a ridiculous 30°C+ temp drop was for the gpu.
    
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I upgraded my cooling from stock straight to custom water. I saw no use to keep fiddling around with something mediocre in between wasting time and money on something I would barely use or have space for when considering I wanted good cooling and that requires big coolers with air. Make a big leap and be done with it. wink.gif

Never regretted the overkill I bought.

The system I used my kit on the first 4 months was barely worth it. Used it on a Phenom 9750 of all things biggrin.gif

Now it gets better use though as this upgrade was planned to be this new AMD stuff.
Though I made a weak buy on motherboard again. Just reaching short of what I wanted from it. Was hoping 4Ghz but 3.9-3.95 is all I can get. Those pesky VRM and BIOS options.

I'm ogling at some upgrades but I wonder what I will do with the other parts that will be left over.
    
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Now I am in a basement that stays cooler year round, and I really didn't take that into consideration with my current perspective.

Ah the basement... the perfect spot for a gaming PC haha thumb.gif

Nice and cool! biggrin.gif
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Ok, seems I hadn't looked at all options yet.

Found out AMD Ryzen Master software can change and increase your base VCORE voltage. That setting isn't available in my Gaming 3 BIOS.
Only offset available there.

So unto new adventures.

Already increase base voltage from 1.18750 --> 1.20625 + bios +0.300V offset = 1.5V for some 4Ghz testing.
    
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My Ryzen 1700 can do 3900mhz @ 1.328v but at 4000mhz required 1.45v to get it pass the stability test, so freaking strange
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My Ryzen 1700 can do 3900mhz @ 1.328v but at 4000mhz required 1.45v to get it pass the stability test, so freaking strange

There was a topic on Anandtech (IIRC) where they discussed this. It's a non-linear frequency vs power curve for the Zen architecture which "accelerates" around 3-3.2Ghz and has a noticeable bump right around the 3.8Ghz mark. Exact location of those "bumps" varies a little chip to chip, but basically explains the results we are seeing. They seem to vary by a few hundred Mhz at most, with a practical limit around 4.1Ghz for most chips with air/water cooling.
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Thought I would share my results after rebuilding into my case and upgrading my loop:

So far:

4.2 @ 1.425v bios LLC2, 1.38 under load : Bench stable, gaming stable, AIDA64 stress test (CPU, Floating point, and cache boxes checked) runs for about 30 min before failing "hardware failure detected". Runs clean for about 25 min before WHEA errors.

4.2 @ 1.445v bios, LLC2, 1.40 under load: Bench stable, AIDA64 about 1.5 hours before failure, P95 ran for 66min before crash, game stable, I got 3 Whea errors immediately before crash, but none before.

4.1 @ 1.412v Bios LLC2, 1.37 under load: Bench stable, Gaming stable, AIDA64 for 1.5 hours, manually stopped, P95 2 hours, Manually stopped. I got 1 WHEA error during P95 loop.

4.0 @ 1.39v Bios LLC2, 1.35/6 under load, Bench stable, gaming stable, AIDA64 for 1 hour, manually stopped, P95 for 1 hour, manually stopped. no WHEA errors


Links, Screens, Validations

http://i.imgur.com/6v7Li4H.jpg
http://valid.x86.fr/b2ltx1
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19456260

New personal best Cinebench score: 1912

http://i.imgur.com/AMaNhYj.jpg

4.2 might be just out of reach in terms of 24/7 stability with a voltage I fee comfortable with. , 4.1 @ 1.41v looks like the way to go.


Nice work!
4.2 is tough on mine would love to see screenshots of those stability tests to see temps on vrms etc, have you any?
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QUESTION!!!

Which Ram kit should I go with?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232488

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232492

Mainly doing premier, after effects, and gaming. thumb.gif
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@cssorkinman

Those are some nice VRM temps mate smile.gif . Not used P95 yet on rig. The IBT below was taken after ~14 loops earlier today, so you could say loops 15-24 are below. So rig was warmed up, case as normal setup, room ambient 22°C.

IBT AVX (Click to show)


I have done a lot longer stress test of each below, those were just quick fire runs to see if a newer flashed UEFI was still stable on settings same as past version. They were done "back to back", room ambient 22°C.

x264 / Y-Cruncher / RB (Click to show)




I'm at lower OC/voltage than you but quite lot higher VRM temps. I have good airflow as well.

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If u can afford to go with the first set. But Corsair has a set of Dom Plats 14CL for $229 right now. You can't go wrong with Corsair Dominators as they are pretty much on everyone's QVL. But if blingage (RGB) is what you're into the Trident sticks seem to be the preferred option. smile.gif

Soon as the alternative I mentioned come down in price, I will pull the trigger on those. thumb.gif

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