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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

I updated the bios, AGESA and reinstalled windows 10 all at the same time. As a result I don't really know what is responsible , but pime 95 at 4.1ghz + is taking more V-core now than it did on bios 1.1 with the original AGESA. Could be that I've taken some of the "new " off of my chip as well. Certainly happened with my 3770K after about a month of use.

You were using old prime 95.

29.1 is tougher.

New agesa is slacked if anything as well as w10 update. I get the same clocks i have been getting but i have been on prime 29.1 since day it was released...

Performance took a dive though with latest agesa and w10 update.

10:xx 32m times @ 4 gig w10

9:03-9:06 in w7 tuned where prior i was sub 9:00.

W10 was faster than 7 previously...
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Yeah, you're right and that makes sense. I've been pretty busy since Friday, but I'll reach out to MSI today and see what they have to say. I'd doubt they would accept a replacement; but we'll see.

But do keep in mind they aren't subject to anything close to -78c normally. Dry ice sublimates to a gas at -78.5c and that gas is heavier than air. If you used dry ice in a cold box you subjected all of the board to those temps. That *could* have an impact.

That said, I wouldn't think doing that once or twice would cause a failure such as described unless you subjected it to temperature extremes - and even then it doesn't seem right.

Not to mention, you don't have to tell MSI you did any Dry Ice testing unless they specifically ask. They claim the board is designed for LN2, so Dry Ice shouldn't be an issue. Just tell them the PCIe slot came off when you removed your card, and they should warranty it. For the cost of the board, they should warranty *anything* that isn't blatant abuse...
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Hmmm, I'll double check, this is the closest I could find...

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236029&Tpk=corsair%20dominator%20platinum

Ram prices sure do not make Ryzen a cost effective build anymore redface.gif
post #9684 of 11557
Finally some 4.0Ghz stability...

Needed 1.2125V base and +0.300V offset for a 1.500V @ load and idle.

Passed 1hour Realbench with some temps :
VRM MAX: 89C
CPU MAX: 73.5
CPU AVG: ~65C


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Finally some 4.0Ghz stability...

Needed 1.2125V base and +0.300V offset for a 1.500V @ load and idle.

Passed 1hour Realbench with some temps :
VRM MAX: 89C
CPU MAX: 73.5
CPU AVG: ~65C


https://valid.x86.fr/vrh61z

Careful there, that's a lot of volts for 24/7
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Careful there, that's a lot of volts for 24/7

I know. I do hope this thing will last. I'm actually more worried about the motherboard than the CPU.

No one had done proper test to see what voltages are safe so... smile.gif
    
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This ram is listed on the Biostar qvl list at 2667. Any opinions? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820231953
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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

I updated the bios, AGESA and reinstalled windows 10 all at the same time. As a result I don't really know what is responsible , but pime 95 at 4.1ghz + is taking more V-core now than it did on bios 1.1 with the original AGESA. Could be that I've taken some of the "new " off of my chip as well. Certainly happened with my 3770K after about a month of use.

Not happened to mine yet TBH. Done a lotta hrs usage and not at low loads either redface.gif . Perhaps it's happened within testing and not noted. AGESA 1.0.0.4a has given me slightly improved RAM efficiency IMO.

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All above W7 and 3x below W10C.

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For 3DM FS/TS W10C seem right as W10A, this is rough compare as not used W10A on R7 and i5 is gone to retest.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12356324/fs/11466324

So i5 on W10A, R7 W10C, both same driver v16.12.2 WHQL. The ~3% disparity in GS/GT1/GT2 is similar in W7 as well for me when compare R7 to i5, so don't think W10C is losing me anything vs W10A if I used that.

Then I did some CB R15 benches today, posted here. I get same score in W10C as W7 (several in OP of my thread).

Some of my testing is to see if W10 is worse performing than W7, due to some info I read regarding scheduling better for Ryzen on W7 (how true no idea). Then my testing has been also about tweaking "Power Plan". On W7 I used High Performance with min CPU 5% and Core Parking disabled (ie 100%), on W10 so far Balanced with CP 50% is coming across "Optimal". Been also meddling with HPET On/Off, gonna roll with On as not seem there is reason to have it Off.

My testing is aiming for sorta all round daily use "Optimisation".
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Originally Posted by Nighthog View Post

I know. I do hope this thing will last. I'm actually more worried about the motherboard than the CPU.

No one had done proper test to see what voltages are safe so... smile.gif

Yea... I can hit 4.0 with 1.400v



And I just ordered these... rolleyes.gif

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232492
post #9690 of 11557
Gups the drop in performance is either HD performance related or sse instruction related ( super pi ).

Those are only 2 things that can really cripple Pi.

Im sure if you tested both hd performance and or an app the uses sse besides pi you could find the culprit.

I doubt its 100% memory to blame but i could be wrong...maybe they changed some subtiming that greatly impacts 32m...but that still does not account for game mode...which btw is in lates w10 download. I installed a fresh w10 from a freshly downloaded iso..

Same results.
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