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Pffft water cooling if is not frosty its a space heater biggrin.gif

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I doubt many of us are specially interested in running LN2 pots full time or plush enough to invest in phase technology to run full time either. I know I don't have the deep pockets that phase requires. I started compiling water cooling parts years ago. Have 2 CPU blocks and will end up shifting to a monoblock only because EK doesn't make a board specific block set for CVIHero. Otherwise I would simply use my spare CPU block and get a board block set. biggrin.gif

I would love to phase though. I am considering investing in a chiller however. cheers.gif

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Dry Ice?

That is a single stage that can run 24/7 if necessary wink.gif.

Not ln2 or dry ice..

Yes it gets that cold to frost up the cpu...

I had two custom units built for me by runmc on xs. Great guys awesome units.

Over 5 years old still problem free.

Has never needed a recharge since he sent them.
Edited by chew* - 4/23/17 at 9:28pm
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That is a single stage that can run 24/7 if necessary wink.gif.

Not ln2 or dry ice..

Yes it gets that cold to frost up the cpu...

I had two custom units built for me by runmc on xs. Great guys awesome units.

Over 5 years old still problem free.

Has never needed a recharge since he sent them.

Not gonna lie... "Single Stage"? You're speaking another language, and I thought I knew a good bit about the modding/components side of things, can you provide some links that explain it a bit better? rolleyes.gif

EDIT: Something like this?

Edited by alucardis666 - 4/23/17 at 9:49pm
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Single stage = one compressor.

Phase is a general term.

There are dual phase and cascades which can use up to 3 compressors.

Units like the one in the above picture imo are pointless. They make sacrifices to accomodate.

A real unit is big bulky noisy and has a massive heat exchanger.
post #9745 of 11538
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Originally Posted by chew* View Post

Single stage = one compressor.

Phase is a general term.

There are dual phase and cascades which can use up to 3 compressors.

Units like the one in the above picture imo are pointless. They make sacrifices to accomodate.

A real unit is big bulky noisy and has a massive heat exchanger.

Thanks for the knowledge! thumb.gif

Sounds like it's a powerhouse. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by alucardis666 View Post

Not gonna lie... "Single Stage"? You're speaking another language, and I thought I knew a good bit about the modding/components side of things, can you provide some links that explain it a bit better? rolleyes.gif

EDIT: Something like this?
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Fun adventure with 24/7 phase change :


http://www.overclock.net/t/1526237/the-downside-of-using-a-phase-change-and-or-extreme-cooling/0_100
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[/SPOILER]

Fun adventure with 24/7 phase change :


http://www.overclock.net/t/1526237/the-downside-of-using-a-phase-change-and-or-extreme-cooling/0_100

Insulating for it properly can be tricky...

Dunno if you can see it but hovering around -40c while running 1.6v and pi..




Pack of smokes for size reference...

I had to kill the system...wife does not like listening to it humming away...rotary compressors are pretty noisy.





Ill fire it back up if i get a night off this week when wifes not around.

Got pi down to 7:56 @ 4.6 gained some mem speed but ran out of time before wife alert alarm went off...lol

No cpu-z...lol i can boot 4.6...cpu-z at bench speeds pointless.

This is the worst of my 3 so/so chips. Good to get an idea of what the variance is.

Its a 3.9 @ 1.40 stable chip struggles over 4.0 in cinebench..

Did 4.2 @ 1.40 cold...4.3 @ 1.45..

Ill grab screens off tomorrow...chip is really flaky....

I will show you what i mean..it does not have the classic black screen crash in cinebench..it just errors out.
Edited by chew* - 4/23/17 at 10:28pm
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1% and 0.1% lows essentially describe the worst frame-rate experienced over the recorded period 1% of the time and 0.1% of the time. Extremely low values can indicate that gameplay will exhibit stutter when these dips occur. This video from Gamers Nexus on the subject is one of the more useful things they've done if you'd like a deeper understanding. The numbers and graphs bear out what the videos exhibit, though, which is that both games were very much playable on both systems. Once I've tested with the cards swapped in these respective systems, the picture will be a bit more in-focus, but I saw what I expected to see with these tests. Which is to say, Project CARS does a bit better with a 4790k and an Nvidia card, where Crysis 3 takes better advantage of multithreading and has a mature Crossfire profile.

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[/SPOILER]

Fun adventure with 24/7 phase change :


http://www.overclock.net/t/1526237/the-downside-of-using-a-phase-change-and-or-extreme-cooling/0_100

I'll take a look! thumb.gif
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Insulating for it properly can be tricky...

Dunno if you can see it but hovering around -40c while running 1.6v and pi..




Pack of smokes for size reference...

I had to kill the system...wife does not like listening to it humming away...rotary compressors are pretty noisy.





Ill fire it back up if i get a night off this week when wifes not around.

Got pi down to 7:56 @ 4.6 gained some mem speed but ran out of time before wife alert alarm went off...lol

No cpu-z...lol i can boot 4.6...cpu-z at bench speeds pointless.

This is the worst of my 3 so/so chips. Good to get an idea of what the variance is.

Its a 3.9 @ 1.40 stable chip struggles over 4.0 in cinebench..

Did 4.2 @ 1.40 cold...4.3 @ 1.45..

Ill grab screens off tomorrow...chip is really flaky....

I will show you what i mean..it does not have the classic black screen crash in cinebench..it just errors out.

-40 huh?!

That's nasty! drool.gif
post #9750 of 11538
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Originally Posted by chew* View Post

Single stage = one compressor.

Phase is a general term.

There are dual phase and cascades which can use up to 3 compressors.

Units like the one in the above picture imo are pointless. They make sacrifices to accomodate.

A real unit is big bulky noisy and has a massive heat exchanger.

If anyone isn't clear (and you are curious), phase change is essential Air Conditioner technology. The "phase change" is gas to liquid (and back to gas). A compressor compresses a gas which heats the gas. That heated gas is forced through a heat exchanger (radiatior) where that heat is expelled. The now cooler gas which is still under pressure is allowed to expand where it cools further and condenses into a super-chilled liquid which is pumped to another heat exchanger where the liquified gas absorbs heat and turns back into a gas...

This image isn't a perfect example, but it's close for a single stage system:

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