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I can't stand having no room to work in a case because of a gigantic heatsink/fan. So I bought a Corsair H100i and was very happy with the temps and ease of installation. No fussing with water loop as it is closed and no maintenance ever. But their loud @ss fans were too annoying, so I bought two Noctua fans specifically for radiators, they were expensive, like $23 each, but boy I couldn't be happier, I run them at 100% and they are dead silent and cool as well as the stock fans if not better. They should come with those fans. And in any case having a high end water setup is not going to get your Ryzen any faster or significantly cooler. These chips all hit a wall between 3.9 and 4.1 ghz under the best situations, and a nice dual fan AIO like the Corsair will easily handle that. If these chips were overclockable to 4.5-5 ghz, then yeah a beefy water setup would be needed, but thermal issues are not what is holding this chip back to the average of 3.9-4.0ghz.
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So you have no exhausts and you're Rad is blowing hot air into the rest of your system? I thought that my system was much more efficient

4 120mm Intakes on low (Inside the front panel), 1 120mm Exhaust (rear), and a 280mm Rad on Exhaust (top) with room for 2 120/140mm Fans left in the top/back (But I don't see much use for them).

all I have is 3 140mm intake, and a 120mm intake.
all custom curved to the CPU temp.

if you are trying to match intake and exhaust, you need to match all the fans flows and pressures.
I have attempted that - in my experience - a case with open back -my S340 example :




and all intakes - seems to work the best(for me for the last 10+ years); because as people see it "hot air" doesn't actually move that much "HOT" air - you have airflow which negates
the hot part - as right now, you are trying to cool with the "hot air" ; you have less temp delta to cool the water with.
and you will not have many hot-spots (dead, non-moving air) with all intakes
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Binning is really important on Hynix since they aren't as flexible as Sammy B. A higher SPD kit would prolly fair a little bit better.

Still nice work extracting what you got from it. thumb.gif

I haven't started binning them yet. Got 40 sticks here. rolleyes.gif

But I have too much to tinker with at work at the moment.

7-X99s
10-7700Ks
Building them all from scratch.

But hey, cracked your TS score. With a bit of cheating. tongue.gif

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1629458
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Nice cheat lol. buttkick.gif

Also all that Hardware to play with. drool.gifdrool.gifdrool.gifdrool.gif


MAXIMUM JEALOUSY!!!!!
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Told you, they're not mine. tongue.gif

BTW, I compiled some TS score for the comp. thumb.gif If nothing better shows up, I'll just sub in. Still no CH6 though. redface.gif
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Hardware to play with is hardware to play with, no matter who owns it. wink.gif

Are your 980Ti's Asus?? Still got 41 days to go, so hopefully your CH6 situation is resolved by then.
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Yeah, that's the other thing. Not an Asus GPU. BIOS flash maybe? biggrin.gif
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We'll see... Might not be necessary.
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I suppose I should say hi I haven't been in here yet, just the AX370 K7 thread so howdy lol 😂
    
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Okay gonna try to add some perspective here in the whole AIR v WATER debate.

On my 955/965 BE platform, I ran

Stock
Stock lapped
CM Hyper 212 plus (Single and Dual fan)
Corair h50 with single and P/P.
Custom loop with a HWLabs 360 Stealth dual DDC single pump dual pump operational... no GPU only MB and CPU on a EK Supreme HF block...

On my CIVFormula. All testing was F@H to give me reasonable feedback on temps. This was my only goal at the time.

On day one I ran stock cooling. F@H got my 955 up to 60c which is fine but I only ran stock for a base value. 60c over 24/7 is reasonable value for Stock. We know there isn't much cooling gains from a stock cooler.

So I replaced Stock with the h50 I purchased with the MB, CPU and 16gb of Corsair AMD sticks.

Single fan setup ran cooler but I saw that F@H maxed at 55c so I gutted the stock fan and used it between the Push fan I added and max temps with F@H showed at 48-50c with Push/Pull. Ran that for 6mos and decided that I wanted a custom loop.

It took longer than I expected to put the loop together so I got Hyper 212 and saw a 4c gain with dual fan setup and no gain at all with single fan setup. Single averaged roughly 48c which is what my h50 was conservatively getting in Push/Pull with a shroud. So air and water were giving me the same temps. I may never have figured this if I had simply gone with the 212 as h50 cost twice as much at the time. But I wanted to see for myself what water would give me when I started purchasing my sig rig.

So I ran 212 for a few months until I got my loop together. Having lapped my CPU, I got Temps down even further. Roughly 10c in gains at slightly above 40c average with the h50 and the 212.

Got rid of the h50 and kept the 212. But again my want of a quieter system was paramount as I game without a headset and I like to hear my games and not my system.

Played around and lapped the stock cooler and at Idle system ran 40c. When Folding it ran 52c. Again showing the futility of running the Stock cooler.

Around this time I got my hands on a lapped 965 for not much performance gain. Which increased Temps 4c average. Tried over clocking it and got it up to 4.0 but heat made a difference in stability. BSoD every time I tried to Fold at that clock speed.

Finally comailed the rest of the loop and averaged 40c @ 4.0ghz with a MB block and CPU run.

Dropped in a stock 1100T which bumped Temps up again at 5c over 40c with the 360 Radiator. But it showed me that water is the way to go if I intend to OC.

I have firsthand experience with both. And imho AIR is okay but water will give better results for OCing. Also as stated my main interest was heat and removing it from my system, but that soon changed to heat and quiet. F@H is simply a heat test for every system I build. I've uncovered bad chips with F@H including a freshly launched FX8125. That chip went beyond 65c right off a freshly built client system. No way I was going to saddle my client with a dog chip. I might've put in my sig rig but I didn't update the BIOS and had I done so I wouldn't have been able to go back to the 1100T. Kinda wish I did, if only to see how well water corrected the issue. But I suppose that it still wouldn'tve mattered with a bad chip anyway. tongue.gif

Both AIR and WATER have their merits but water is indeed better. Phase and Chillers are even better but the goal with those is to run under the Ambient wall. No AIR or WATER is going to do that without assistance of an external source. AC or Chiller. Now that I have two full time rigs I will likely add a chiller to them and run them off that. But for now I will stay with a 360(/+) but I am not looking to break the ambient barrier any time soon. biggrin.gif

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