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what are you guys cinebench score for 4 ghz R7 1700 ? I got 1708 in cinebench with 4.0 ghz 1700 , 2666mhz Ram . Isn't it too low for my cpu speed ?

Seems like it, you should be in the 1750+ range even with 2666 ram I would think. Low performance like that could mean you need a bump in core voltage
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Not sure if this has been mentioned or anyone else noticed this, but it's something annoying I've noticed with the latest CPU-Z update meant for Ryzen CPUs. It would seem that the new benchmark version favors Intel CPUs and has put them above Ryzen CPUs in conditions in which they were the other way around.

Here's what I mean: my R7 1700 @3950 vs i7 6700K with versions 1.78 and 1.79


7700K was removed from the reference but single threaded performance was just a bit shy of my 1700 at 3950 before, not I'm under the 7600K at the same settings.

Weird?

I noticed the same thing, a much lower score and a change to what CPU-z compares Ryzen to.

Seems a bit weird to me- I'm not generally a tinfoil hat wearer... but this is fishy.

I would say that the latest revision of CPUz has some refinements for Ryzen after more data collected that's all and your CPU should be a bit slower than a 7600K
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I don't see the risk of LLC. The board will use it automatically to some extent anyway. I would rather run a lower voltage with a high LLC than a higher voltage without it as LLC is just a response curve to respond to v-drop...

The risk is just as Gupsterg repeatedly stated: you have to be aware of what happens and what kind of overshoot you are dealing with and that it adds additional strain to the involved hardware. I personally don't mind some calculated overshoot as long as it stays in those areas that the chip would reach on stock when single core boosting. For example my 1800X reports ~1.5V core when single core XFR boosting to 4.1GHz.
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Seems like it, you should be in the 1750+ range even with 2666 ram I would think. Low performance like that could mean you need a bump in core voltage
I would say that the latest revision of CPUz has some refinements for Ryzen after more data collected that's all and your CPU should be a bit slower than a 7600K

I stress test with Intel Burn Test maximum setting and passed 10 rounds without crashing so i don't think voltage is culprit here. My vcore is already at 1.44v LLC3.
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what are you guys cinebench score for 4 ghz R7 1700 ? I got 1708 in cinebench with 4.0 ghz 1700 , 2666mhz Ram . Isn't it too low for my cpu speed ?

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what are you guys cinebench score for 4 ghz R7 1700 ? I got 1708 in cinebench with 4.0 ghz 1700 , 2666mhz Ram . Isn't it too low for my cpu speed ?

Seems a bit low compared to scores I've seen. Also depends on what you might have running in the back ground... and if others have messed with the process priority or not. I've seen a few people that run the benchmark in real time... it can give higher scores depending.

Beyond that I see scores vary a lot. My highest score so far came off my Titanium... and that came out higher than the other two boards I've tested. I only run @ 3.9.. every time I decide I am going to start doing 4.0 testing... I wander off and do other things.
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Seems like it, you should be in the 1750+ range even with 2666 ram I would think. Low performance like that could mean you need a bump in core voltage
I would say that the latest revision of CPUz has some refinements for Ryzen after more data collected that's all and your CPU should be a bit slower than a 7600K

No no, wayyyyy off the mark. Notice the severe drop in the score between versions 1.78 and 1.79

If my cinebench scores were THAT far behind a 7700 id agree with cpu-z 1.79, but no its definitely off.
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Great news for AMD users

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-adds-new-radeon-pro-duo-with-two-polaris-10-gpus.html

^^^ Guess that's their answer to the TXp?

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ryzen-to-post-faster-with-new-agesa-1-4a-microcode.html

^^^ This is GREAT news!

All the new MSI bios are running the Agesa 1.0.0.4a code, has there since been a revision we should be expecting soon?
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Seems like it, you should be in the 1750+ range even with 2666 ram I would think. Low performance like that could mean you need a bump in core voltage
I would say that the latest revision of CPUz has some refinements for Ryzen after more data collected that's all and your CPU should be a bit slower than a 7600K

So they've refined it into being slower than the 7600K? :-) my point was that at those speeds it scored better than the 7700K on the previous version of CPUz and now it's lower than 7600K. So, to launch an update for Ryzen that actually makes it lose performance in front of its main competitor seemed weird to me. Had it been below the 7600/7700K in the previous version as well, I wouldn't have found it fishy.
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But doesn't Ryzen actually have lower IPC than Sky- or Kaby Lake?
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But doesn't Ryzen actually have lower IPC than Sky- or Kaby Lake?

depends on the workload. some are within a margin of error.
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