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If you find something let me know. I did all my first round at 2933 cause I didn't want a fight. It was really smooth though at that speed no CB/CBB always rebooted without a hitch.
I think I found the 1600x you were looking for biggrin.gif
I appreciate all the time and effort you've been putting in here Gups, It's not easy balancing work life and your hobbies at times and I know you've put countless hours into Ryzen and it's only 2 months old. cheers.gif

1600 non x...

We likey the budget minded stuff smile.gif
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depends on the workload. some are within a margin of error.

Is there a specific instruction set you're referring to? Because to my knowledge (and what I thought was obvious) is that Ryzen does not reach the IPC levels of Skylake/Kaby.
    
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All the new MSI bios are running the Agesa 1.0.0.4a code, has there since been a revision we should be expecting soon?

no, 1.0.0.4a was being used for bios from many vendors when that story was written.
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no, 1.0.0.4a was being used for bios from many vendors when that story was written.

found this to be an interesting thread over on the MSI forums https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=284497.50
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But doesn't Ryzen actually have lower IPC than Sky- or Kaby Lake?

depends on the workload. some are within a margin of error.
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depends on the workload. some are within a margin of error.

Is there a specific instruction set you're referring to? Because to my knowledge (and what I thought was obvious) is that Ryzen does not reach the IPC levels of Skylake/Kaby.

https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/213734-ryzen-ipc-beating-skylake-in-linux

quick google - but basically; depends on the workload.
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what are you guys cinebench score for 4 ghz R7 1700 ? I got 1708 in cinebench with 4.0 ghz 1700 , 2666mhz Ram . Isn't it too low for my cpu speed ?
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The 4ghz results in the run below were prior to memory tweaks that were used during the top score of my results.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

http://hwbot.org/submission/3522517_gupsterg_cinebench___r15_ryzen_7_1700_1845_cb

I got several RAM clocks at 3.8GHz spyui in thread in my sig. I can run 3.9GHz 2666MHz if you like?
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There is a reason to use LLC, it just may not be needed in this instance. With that said, if 1.4v is the highest vcore this member is willing to use on a 24/7 basis, the only way to gain stability with that setting would likely be LLC (provided the stability issues are vcore related). I'm considerably more aggressive with the use of LLC than many of the members in the C6H thread but I'm willing to deal with the consequences should it go south (though I believe the likelihood of this happening prior to an upgrade in the next couple years to be relatively insignificant). Assuming the risks of increasing LLC is a decision we have to make.

It's not that I refuse to go above 1.4v, it's just that I started out at 1.4v for my 3.9ghz OC. Seeing as most people tend to reach 3.9 around that voltage, that said I have no quarrel increasing it up towards 1.45v though I would prefer to stay at a voltage that would not degrade my CPU over time. I'll be trying to go for 3.9ghz later on when I have time for another round of tweaking and benching, but for now I have found a stable voltage for 3.8GHz which I can always fall back on if I can't reach 3.9 with my chip.
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http://hwbot.org/submission/3522517_gupsterg_cinebench___r15_ryzen_7_1700_1845_cb

I got several RAM clocks at 3.8GHz spyui in thread in my sig. I can run 3.9GHz 2666MHz if you like?

That would be great if you can test with 2666mhz ram. Are you testing on High Power setting or AMD power setting ? I also run 4 x 8gb Trident C16 ram 3200mhz but my mb doesn't post more than 2666 mhz.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/213734-ryzen-ipc-beating-skylake-in-linux

quick google - but basically; depends on the workload.

This just seems to confirm that IPC of Ryzen is lower than Sky/Kaby in Windows so it makes sense that it would have a lower score in the Windows version of CPU-Z.
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The risk is just as Gupsterg repeatedly stated: you have to be aware of what happens and what kind of overshoot you are dealing with and that it adds additional strain to the involved hardware. I personally don't mind some calculated overshoot as long as it stays in those areas that the chip would reach on stock when single core boosting. For example my 1800X reports ~1.5V core when single core XFR boosting to 4.1GHz.

Ah, so the risk is really when someone who doesn't know what they are doing misuses LLC and ends up over-driving their CPU...I thought someone had a concern about the technology not it's misuse (aka the vehicle vs the nut behind the wheel...)
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