Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › [Official] RYZEN 7 1800X | 1700X |1700 Owners Club & 4GHz+ Club
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Official] RYZEN 7 1800X | 1700X |1700 Owners Club & 4GHz+ Club - Page 994

post #9931 of 11721
Quote:
Originally Posted by dieanotherday View Post

The problem is that sc2 is the only game I play

I have probably played you smile.gif
post #9932 of 11721
Quote:
Originally Posted by dieanotherday View Post

The problem is that sc2 is the only game I play

Is Ryzen that bad with SC2? Do you have link that tests SC2?
Ryzen - Elmor
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 1700 @ 3.8Ghz ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO GeForce GTX 1070 32GB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 960 EVO 1TB Samsung 830 SSD 256GB Hitachi 2TB HGST 4TB  
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Noctua NH-D15S Windows 10 Pro Acer Predator XB271HU SeaSonic PRIME Titanium 750W 
Case
Fractal Design Define R5 
  hide details  
Reply
Ryzen - Elmor
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 1700 @ 3.8Ghz ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO GeForce GTX 1070 32GB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 960 EVO 1TB Samsung 830 SSD 256GB Hitachi 2TB HGST 4TB  
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Noctua NH-D15S Windows 10 Pro Acer Predator XB271HU SeaSonic PRIME Titanium 750W 
Case
Fractal Design Define R5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9933 of 11721

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieanotherday View Post

The problem is that sc2 is the only game I play

 

If that's the only game you play and you're not doing anything CPU-intensive besides, then a 7600k would probably be your ideal processor.

 
Zan's Doombot
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X @ 4.0 GHz 1.36v o/s  Biostar X370 GT7 ASUS GTX 1080 Strix OC G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) @ 29... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Biostar M200-240 240GB m.2 SATA SSD (Win) Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD (Linux) SanDisk Ultra II 480GB SSD (Games) Seagate 2TB SSHD (Storage) 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG DVD RW Swiftech H220-X2 Windows 10 Pro Fedora Workstation 25 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Pixio PX277 27" 1440p 144Hz DP-Adaptive Sync w... JAR-OWL J1 Rainbow LED Mechanical SeaSonic X-Series 1050w Gold+ Corsair 760T 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Zowie FK1 Razer Firefly Plantronics Rig 500e Gaming Headset Marantz Pro MPH-1 Monitoring Headphones 
AudioOther
S.M.S.L SD-793II Audio DAC + Headphone Amplifier Xbox One Controller 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE MSI 970 Gaming Sapphire RX 480 Nitro 8GB SK Hynix HMT451U6AFR8C 8GB (2 x 4GB) @ 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
WD Blue 250GB Cooler Master GeminII S524 Ver.2  Ubuntu 17.04 LG 29UM58-P  
PowerCase
EVGA Supernova G2 850w Antec GX500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX-6300 @ 4.3GHz 1.35v Biostar TA970 v5.3 MSI HD 6950 2GB ASUS HD 6450 (PCI passthrough) 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
G.Skill Ripjaws Z 16GB (4x4GB) 1600 Crucial MX200 500GB SSD Cryorig H5 Ultimate Corsair AF120 (White LED) x3 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Corsair AF140 (White LED) x2 Antergos Linux Windows 10 Pro (VM) Dell S2440L 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 EVGA B2 850w Corsair 300R SteelSeries Rival 300 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Zan's Doombot
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X @ 4.0 GHz 1.36v o/s  Biostar X370 GT7 ASUS GTX 1080 Strix OC G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) @ 29... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Biostar M200-240 240GB m.2 SATA SSD (Win) Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD (Linux) SanDisk Ultra II 480GB SSD (Games) Seagate 2TB SSHD (Storage) 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG DVD RW Swiftech H220-X2 Windows 10 Pro Fedora Workstation 25 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Pixio PX277 27" 1440p 144Hz DP-Adaptive Sync w... JAR-OWL J1 Rainbow LED Mechanical SeaSonic X-Series 1050w Gold+ Corsair 760T 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Zowie FK1 Razer Firefly Plantronics Rig 500e Gaming Headset Marantz Pro MPH-1 Monitoring Headphones 
AudioOther
S.M.S.L SD-793II Audio DAC + Headphone Amplifier Xbox One Controller 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE MSI 970 Gaming Sapphire RX 480 Nitro 8GB SK Hynix HMT451U6AFR8C 8GB (2 x 4GB) @ 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
WD Blue 250GB Cooler Master GeminII S524 Ver.2  Ubuntu 17.04 LG 29UM58-P  
PowerCase
EVGA Supernova G2 850w Antec GX500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX-6300 @ 4.3GHz 1.35v Biostar TA970 v5.3 MSI HD 6950 2GB ASUS HD 6450 (PCI passthrough) 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
G.Skill Ripjaws Z 16GB (4x4GB) 1600 Crucial MX200 500GB SSD Cryorig H5 Ultimate Corsair AF120 (White LED) x3 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Corsair AF140 (White LED) x2 Antergos Linux Windows 10 Pro (VM) Dell S2440L 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 EVGA B2 850w Corsair 300R SteelSeries Rival 300 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9934 of 11721
Quote:
Originally Posted by bardacuda View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alwrath View Post

we disagree on is your statement saying that air coolers are more than sufficient. They are not. My corsair h100i v2 is worth its weight in gold with my overclock. An air cooler is not sufficient especially during the summer.

 

post #9935 of 11721
Quote:
Originally Posted by finalheaven View Post

Is Ryzen that bad with SC2? Do you have link that tests SC2?

Did you see the post above me?

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Ryzen-7-1800X-CPU-265804/Tests/Test-Review-1222033/
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
[/quote]

I'm getting results like that

i7 2600k @ 4.7 gets 2x frame rate of ryzen @ 3.8ghz.
Phenom II X4 955
(11 items)
 
Phenom II X4 20
(11 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.72Ghz MSI NF980 G65 HD 6970 2 x 4GB Ripjaws DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Kingston HyperX SATA III 128GB SSD Stock Win 7 Ultimate 2 23" 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech G15 Corsair HX650 Thermaltake Soprano Snow 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 20 @ 3.22Ghz (unlocked X3 720) Asrock 870 Extreme 3 GTX 460 with Gelid Icy Vision Cooler 2 x 4GB Ripjaws DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Kingston HyperX SATA III 128GB SSD Stock Win 7 Ultimate 27" 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCase
Sidewinder X4 Antec Eco 620 Antec 900 
  hide details  
Reply
Phenom II X4 955
(11 items)
 
Phenom II X4 20
(11 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.72Ghz MSI NF980 G65 HD 6970 2 x 4GB Ripjaws DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Kingston HyperX SATA III 128GB SSD Stock Win 7 Ultimate 2 23" 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCase
Logitech G15 Corsair HX650 Thermaltake Soprano Snow 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 20 @ 3.22Ghz (unlocked X3 720) Asrock 870 Extreme 3 GTX 460 with Gelid Icy Vision Cooler 2 x 4GB Ripjaws DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Kingston HyperX SATA III 128GB SSD Stock Win 7 Ultimate 27" 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCase
Sidewinder X4 Antec Eco 620 Antec 900 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9936 of 11721
Quote:
Originally Posted by dieanotherday View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by finalheaven View Post

Is Ryzen that bad with SC2? Do you have link that tests SC2?

Did you see the post above me?

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Ryzen-7-1800X-CPU-265804/Tests/Test-Review-1222033/
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

[/quote]I'm getting results like that

i7 2600k @ 4.7 gets 2x frame rate of ryzen @ 3.8ghz.[/quote]



By the review that would be 2x the 5960X then as well.
Ryzen Shine!
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 1800X @ 4125mhz 1.432 Volts MSI X370 Titanium   Fury  G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 pro Hp 1260 I liquid unobtanium Koolance 480mm radiator, 39... Win 7 HP/Winspy 10 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
24" hp @ 1900x1200 Logitech G19 PC power and cooling 910 watt silencer Thermaltake P5 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech MX 518 fUnc industries 
  hide details  
Reply
Ryzen Shine!
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 1800X @ 4125mhz 1.432 Volts MSI X370 Titanium   Fury  G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 pro Hp 1260 I liquid unobtanium Koolance 480mm radiator, 39... Win 7 HP/Winspy 10 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
24" hp @ 1900x1200 Logitech G19 PC power and cooling 910 watt silencer Thermaltake P5 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech MX 518 fUnc industries 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9937 of 11721
Quote:
Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

i7 2600k @ 4.7 gets 2x frame rate of ryzen @ 3.8ghz.

By the review that would be 2x the 5960X then as well.

RyZen is NOT the Gamers choice as of today, the clock speeds just aren't there. But as games become more reliant on multi-core, we will see it become more competitive. What RyZen IS however, is a fantastic workstation solution for content creators and streamers who also want to game well. I'm pulling 100+ AVG FPS with my 1080Ti SLi @ 4k Maxed in all my games, and that's just dandy for me. thumb.gif
post #9938 of 11721
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawne32 View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtbtk View Post

The written character in Chinese for the country China and the character for center or central is the same character. That may help explain part of what is happening.

I am not wanting to turn this into an "anti" China or Taiwan or anything else anything post. Different countries end up with different cultural values and expectations based on their historical experiences. Particularly, having had a recent history and experience of the deprivations of war and then following that having to survive things like communist then cultural revolutions and the poverty that went along with that builds a different perspective on things.

Health, safety and the value of life are only very modern concepts that have not permeated everywhere in society yet. You don't really need that as a country when you have a billion people, you can afford to lose a few along the way and it is just Karma. If you are staff, you should be beholden completely to them because they are giving you money. They probably make enough money selling to the china domestic market to keep the doors open. Exports are cream on top.    

Western people have a completely different set of values and expectations and have been known to come over to this part of the world and blunder around trying to apply what they understand to be "normal", causing just as many head scratching moments as well.

Having said all of that, It doesn't really help MSI customers who, while having some patience and understanding of DOA gear and bugs, have the expectation that the hardware they spend hard earned money on actually works as advertised. The support guys would be much better served by understanding that themselves and managing expectations rather than getting pissed of at the customers.

Oh I totally agree with you, and the cultural differences between china and western civilizations was something that was very difficult to blend. The concept of RMA's and safety was seemingly entirely new to them upon them taking an initial foothold in the north american market. Coupled with the fact that westerners (american and european alike) have an expectation of safety and quality guarantee they were befuddled when a customer wanted their money back when a product was broken or understanding of the safety standards imposed with selling a product in the states. Even here in the USA I think we are only about 75 years or so into most modern safety standards, with some dangerous practices dating as late as the 60s and 70s with lead. It has always troubled me however that the concept of customer service was so foreign to some of these businesses from that sector of the world, because not only is it just an expectation here in western civ, but I believe for the most part, we tend to pride ourselves on producing a quality product and having it be safe and good in the same respect, I always found it to be a point of stress at that job of how much that had to be emphasized.

That being said, seeing what MSI and others like asrock have become since the early 2000s, I would say they are a much better company than what they were, and as I have said before in this thread my disappointment with this whole situation is directed at AMD, as some of those MSI moderators have spoken out on very blatantly. While I have no doubt that AMD values the enthusiast market and producing a phenomenal product, rushing to release with a buggy product or microcode if you will, and causing chaos for everyone, including the consumers, does not reflect the quality of the brand. Something a CEO like Lisa Su should be wholly focused on.

 

The Asian companies dealing with the west are certainly learning and improving all the time, just as companies who break into the Asian market. Asus has become the biggest player in the market not because their products have always been intrinsically better physically, but because they realized that they need to lift their game and provide the perception of top quality. Spending your money on the right sort of marketing, including understanding that support is part of that marketing spend.

 

Companies and sports teams share a lot in common, In raw talent terms, they are all generally pretty similar, but the winning teams have that believe that they can do no wrong, even though mistakes are made, the everyone lifts and performs above themselves. Other teams stuggle along blundering from one disaster to another until the right leader comes along and gets everyone's heads in the right place. With the restructurings and new management, it looks like AMD are trying to fix the head space thing but they are not there yet.

post #9939 of 11721
Quote:
Originally Posted by alucardis666 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

i7 2600k @ 4.7 gets 2x frame rate of ryzen @ 3.8ghz.

By the review that would be 2x the 5960X then as well.

RyZen is NOT the Gamers choice as of today, the clock speeds just aren't there. But as games become more reliant on multi-core, we will see it become more competitive. What RyZen IS however, is a fantastic workstation solution for content creators and streamers who also want to game well. I'm pulling 100+ AVG FPS with my 1080Ti SLi @ 4k Maxed in all my games, and that's just dandy for me. thumb.gif

More correctly,
The only games having any actual issues with frames are single threaded old engines.
post #9940 of 11721
Quote:
Originally Posted by drdrache View Post

More correctly,
The only games having any actual issues with frames are single threaded old engines.

Exactly my point. thumb.gif

I'm VERY happy with Ryzen so far. And I know it'll only get better with time. thumbsupsmiley.png
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › [Official] RYZEN 7 1800X | 1700X |1700 Owners Club & 4GHz+ Club