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Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post

It's like some of you haven't been around the cpu scene long at all...

Different clock speed vs price point has typically always been the name of the game.. Some people do not want to overclock and just want the fastest model. This is how the overclocking scene was born... to get a faster model for cheaper - not to just push the fastest models even faster.. At $500 an 1800x is still considerably cheaper than a HEDT from Intel and performs pretty much in parity. For those of who want cheaper prices and can OC, pick up the 1700.

What looks bad is artificially locking overclocking to "K" chips yet that seems to be all fine and dandy around here.

But at least the K chips justify their premium when compared to the exact same non-k chip. You pay a small amount more for the unlocked cpu. Ryzen 7 chips look silly since they all overclock to 3.9-4.1 but the price difference is quite large.
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But at least the K chips justify their premium when compared to the exact same non-k chip. You pay a small amount more for the unlocked cpu. Ryzen 7 chips look silly since they all overclock to 3.9-4.1 but the price difference is quite large.

Now we are accusing AMD for being generous tongue.gif

I think the price is fine as it is. You are free to choose from 1700, 1700x, 1800x. If you want absolute bargain just go for 1700. If you want to plug-and-play then go for the X. And if you want to support AMD and pursuit as any MHz as possible just slap money to their face with 1800x.

There is buyer remorse with pre-order guys, sure. But in the end of the day most of them want to support AMD and will be fine with it.
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But at least the K chips justify their premium when compared to the exact same non-k chip. You pay a small amount more for the unlocked cpu. Ryzen 7 chips look silly since they all overclock to 3.9-4.1 but the price difference is quite large.

If anything, the 1700X seems like more of a waste. I could justify the 1800X being in the line up next to the 1700. Maybe not at the price point it is. Maybe $450 would have worked.
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Thats why you buy the 1700....

x chips are for people that dont know what a bios is. I said this the same day the reviews hit, they should have ONLY released the 1700 lol. Forget about the x chips and you will see this differently.

Its just odd you are so upset about this but are cool with 6800k vs 6850k prices....

I didn't say I was cool with the comparable performing intel priced chip. Although I can get a 6800k for $359, i'd probably still pick the 1700 over it.

Don't think that just because I have thoughts on this that don't align with others that rant and rave over Ryzen means I think the CPU is utter trash.

With that said, the article that I agreed with still holds true to not only me, but a ton of people beyond OCN.

Ryzen 7 is a niche product. Unless someone can show me mass businesses ditching their Xeons in favor of a Ryzen 7 chip?

There's no such thing as a bad CPU, just a bad price. The 1700x and 1800x are way off base. If it's not then it's price ratio compared to the other models within Ryzen 7 will never change either....but I have a hunch it will, just wait.

By that I mean the 1800x price will fall quite a bit and the whole R7 lineup with tighten. This is one of my biggest complaints with AMD. They price it high then drop over time. Intel and Nvidia you'll see far less of this. In other words it devalues AMD products. Anyone remember the 9K series FX chip prices at release? Yes I am aware that's an extreme example.
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Kinda fun slapping 5 ghz 7700k's around in 3D benches ( at stock clocks on the 1800x)
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Latest DotA 2 patch included a ryzen improvement.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/28296/

- Improved threading configuration for AMD Ryzen processors.
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You're paying $80 more to get a much better chance at hitting 4.0ghz on the 1700X at reasonable voltages. You're paying $180 more to get a 1800X to get possibly 4.1ghz or just have the 4.0ghz out of the box. To some that may be worth it. Personally i don't see the point where a 3.9ghz or 4ghz if you're lucky 1700 for less $ will be just as good and you wont notice a difference outside of synthetics.

My problem right now is the damn memory issues. I just want a board that can take my 32GB 3200Mhz CL14 kit without a fuss and i'll be fine with that.

well when you OC with water, and have 2 pumps fail, you start to look at the top tier chips and go "if only I would have spent 100 more". Then you get that OC clock at stock, win?

[to others]

Some people like having the top tier performance without the effort, idk those who have kids and a life that don't have the time to ask more savvy friends what to do because they don't have the time for it.

No, that's too long of a sentence to be true or right. English embarrassment.
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Latest DotA 2 patch included a ryzen improvement.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/28296/

- Improved threading configuration for AMD Ryzen processors.

nice guy valve
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well when you OC with water, and have 2 pumps fail, you start to look at the top tier chips and go "if only I would have spent 100 more". Then you get that OC clock at stock, win?

[to others]

Some people like having the top tier performance without the effort, idk those who have kids and a life that don't have the time to ask more savvy friends what to do because they don't have the time for it.

No, that's too long of a sentence to be true or right. English embarrassment.

pumps failing has less to do about the OC and more to do with the quality of those pumps.
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Not sure what you are trying to say there? thinking.gif When I think about the 1600 I'm thinking of a 2500K but for modern workloads. Roughly the same price as when the 2500K launched but with 6 cores and 12 threads. This will be a very disruptive sku in the CPU market, even more so than the R7's which are already very disruptive to the HEDT market.

What I am trying to say is that with 6 Core CPU you will get the performance before then a 8 Core CPU in games if you plan to keep the CPU for long time. Right now the sweet spot is 4C/8T. In 2-3 years it will be 6C/12T. 8C/16T will take much longer then that.
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What I am trying to say is that with 6 Core CPU you will get the performance before then a 8 Core CPU in games if you plan to keep the CPU for long time. Right now the sweet spot is 4C/8T. In 2-3 years it will be 6C/12T. 8C/16T will take much longer then that.

The sweet spot right now is 6 core/12 thread, decent amount of games are already using more cores.
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