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The sweet spot right now is 6 core/12 thread, decent amount of games are already using more cores.

The fastest one in game testing is still 4 cores for almost all games
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What I am trying to say is that with 6 Core CPU you will get the performance before then a 8 Core CPU in games if you plan to keep the CPU for long time. Right now the sweet spot is 4C/8T. In 2-3 years it will be 6C/12T. 8C/16T will take much longer then that.

Wouldbt the 8 core perform the same seeing as it has 6 + 2 more cores?
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

What I guess would've made some of these people happy is if AMD had pulled an Intel with Ryzen and offered the 1700 for its $329 price but locked out OCing (and cut SMT). Then there would be more justification in the "X" prices but stupid AMD just gave us basically the same chip but for $200 less. What a bunch of morons over at AMD not screwing over their customers!

They all wanted $1000 CPUs. I remember some here were hoping for $700 and saying AMD is not a charity lol
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They all wanted $1000 CPUs. I remember some here were hoping for $700 and saying AMD is not a charity lol

Definitely a strange few around here. Dunno why anyone would be angry over getting a better deal than they wanted.
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But at least the K chips justify their premium when compared to the exact same non-k chip. You pay a small amount more for the unlocked cpu. Ryzen 7 chips look silly since they all overclock to 3.9-4.1 but the price difference is quite large.

 

In a world where the vast, vast majority of people don't overclock, using a price hierarchy determined by tiers of base/boost clocks makes perfect sense. In a world where the vast, vast majority of professional workstation users are not overclocking, releasing an 8c/16t chip which uses a price hierarchy determineed by tiers of base/boost clocks makes perfect sense. That world is our world. The 1700 is a straight-up gift to price/performance buyers and overclockers, because AMD knows that these buyers and their goodwill towards AMD have effectively kept the sinking ship afloat long enough to put out competitive ranges in the money (read: server and workstation) spaces.

 

You're so conditioned to Intel's dominance that you're completely willing to excuse the near-monopoly power play whilst criticising the logical positioning of a stack that also happens to benefit we the extreme minority of overclocking enthusiasts. The only reason K chips (arguably) 'justify' their price-premium is because of standards that Intel itself has created regarding what is and isn't for overclockers.

 

And before any blue crusaders try to lay into me with 'all corporations matter' I'm not saying that any other company would provably do things differently with the same sort of dominance that Intel has had, nor am I calling them 'evil' for what they've done re: K vs non-K. That said, as a consumer I don't have to like it and I'm honestly not sure why any consumer would.

 
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But at least the K chips justify their premium when compared to the exact same non-k chip. You pay a small amount more for the unlocked cpu. Ryzen 7 chips look silly since they all overclock to 3.9-4.1 but the price difference is quite large.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oh look, exactly the kind of guy I was referencing when I said this:
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

What I guess would've made some of these people happy is if AMD had pulled an Intel with Ryzen and offered the 1700 for its $329 price but locked out OCing (and cut SMT). Then there would be more justification in the "X" prices but stupid AMD just gave us basically the same chip but for $200 less. What a bunch of morons over at AMD not screwing over their customers!
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I bought the 1700x because it was on sale at geekdeal without tax too (I'm from california). for 369.99 and they don't have any r7 1700 in stock. If i bought an r7 1700 in newegg or amazon the tax will make it cost the same with the 1700x on geekdeal. just had to wait for more than a week because I believe it was shipped from washington thumb.gif Ryzen X master race. r7 1700 peasants biggrin.gif
Edited by jprovido - 3/20/17 at 9:45pm
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I'll definitely be getting a 1700X myself. It doesn't really cost much more than the 1700 and I get to join the Ryzen X master race! Can't really justify the price gap to the 1800X personally, though if it were just a bit cheaper I'd probably spring for it just to get the top of the line Ryzen (but $499 is just a bit too steep of a jump from the 1700 for little real benefit).
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I'll definitely be getting a 1700X myself. It doesn't really cost much more than the 1700 and I get to join the Ryzen X master race! Can't really justify the price gap to the 1800X personally, though if it were just a bit cheaper I'd probably spring for it just to get the top of the line Ryzen (but $499 is just a bit too steep of a jump from the 1700 for little real benefit).

I'm really happy with my 1700x. I was able to get a 3.9ghz overclock on a cheap b350 matx board thumb.gif hopefully the memory speeds gets better soon. 2400MHz kinda sucks and I have a 3200mhz kit
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I gotta get that Crosshair VI Hero personally! I know they've had issues but by the time I'm ready for my build they should be mostly sorted. I'm a big ROG fanboy at this point since my RIVE. Will throw some 3200MHz CL14 memory in there and call it a day.
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