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It's your MB.

I've seen videos on youtube getting 2900+ to 3200mhz on this board. obviously with a different kit though frown.gif

one sample is this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNu-QiVr95M&t=197s
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I take it that he tightened the timings after giving up on frequency overclock.

yes. just gave up and focused on the tightening the timings lol
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ASUS B350 prime mATX? Could be the problem. X370 seems to be getting more attention as far as ram speed goes. Hopefully once Ryzen 5 launches and there is more focus from manufacturers promoting B350 there will be better support for faster ram. At least 2667 if not 3000/2996 or whatever it is with Ryzen.

ASUS has been pretty good with supporting this b350 motherboard. I'm on my 4th bios update now and all the things that needed a little bit of ironing out as been addressed now (wrong bios temps, voltage not showing up correctly etc.). I got this kit from my main pc, my kaby lake system. I had 4 sticks of 8gb 3200mhz on that pc and I don't even need it so I decided to just take two sticks and put it on the ryzen rig. it's not been working so good atm
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Set ALL timings manually (SPD reading software is a good start to get all subtiming values for your RAM) if you want faster memory/IF speeds. Ive seen 2400 kits running at 3200 on Ryzen, you just have to set the latencies properly (20-20-20-40 range if coming from 2400), there are calculators around the internet to generate the 3200 timings from 2400 ones.

Even with horrid timings, 3200 is faster than 2400 on Ryzen.

Ive also seen the MSI B350 Tomahawk running 3600, so there is that. Max speed is dependent on luck of the draw on the CPU and weather or not your vendor is putting the X370 UEFI fixes in its B350 UEFIs.

AFAIK, on Asus boards, you need to incrementally increase ram speeds because the built in link training is pretty bad at this point. IE, set 2400 at your 3200 timings and reboot, then change speed to 2667 and reboot, and so forth until you reach your desired speed. Have to do this at every cold boot as well. Actually, the same thing happens on Asus AM1 platforms.

mine won't budge at all. even tried cas22 2666 at one point just to see if it boots (I have a 3200mhz cl16 kit) I have adjusted every voltage that I can and I just can't get it to budge above 2400mhz.
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mine won't budge at all. even tried cas22 2666 at one point just to see if it boots (I have a 3200mhz cl16 kit) I have adjusted every voltage that I can and I just can't get it to budge above 2400mhz.

Does it have trfc and other advanced timing options in the UEFI? Is there a 'compatibility mode' or something like that under advanced memory timings?
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I've seen videos on youtube getting 2900+ to 3200mhz on this board. obviously with a different kit though frown.gif

one sample is this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNu-QiVr95M&t=197s
yes. just gave up and focused on the tightening the timings lol
ASUS has been pretty good with supporting this b350 motherboard. I'm on my 4th bios update now and all the things that needed a little bit of ironing out as been addressed now (wrong bios temps, voltage not showing up correctly etc.). I got this kit from my main pc, my kaby lake system. I had 4 sticks of 8gb 3200mhz on that pc and I don't even need it so I decided to just take two sticks and put it on the ryzen rig. it's not been working so good atm
mine won't budge at all. even tried cas22 2666 at one point just to see if it boots (I have a 3200mhz cl16 kit) I have adjusted every voltage that I can and I just can't get it to budge above 2400mhz.

From someone that test a lot of different CPU with same MB and RAM he said that the CPU has nothing to do with it. It is always the RAM or the MB.
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I am also stuck at 2400, whatever you do it wont go higher.

Asrock killer

And this ram:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231941

Luckily i got mine for 98 bucks so stuck at 2400 for a while does not bother me too much lol.
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sisoft review

http://www.sisoftware.eu/2017/04/05/amd-ryzen-review-and-benchmarks-cpu/
"What a return of fortune from AMD! Despite a hurried launch and inevitable issues which will be fixed in time (e.g. Windows scheduler), Ryzen puts a strong performance beating Intel’s previous top-of-the-range Skylake 6700K and Haswell-E 6820K into dust in most tests at a much cheaper price.

Of course there are setbacks, highly vectorised AVX2/FMA code greatly favour Intel’s SIMD units and here Ryzen falls behind a bit; streaming algorithms can overload the 2 memory channels but then again Intel’s mainstream platform has only 2 also. "
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I am also stuck at 2400, whatever you do it wont go higher.

Asrock killer

And this ram:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231941

Luckily i got mine for 98 bucks so stuck at 2400 for a while does not bother me too much lol.

yea but our kit kinda sucks with ryzen. I'm trying really hard to be patient rolleyes.gif

I'm doing my 30 day ryzen challenge and switched my main pc and ryzen pc in the living room (I believe it's been 6 days now)

Playing dota 2 is a little bit annoying I'm certain at 3200mhz those minimums will improve. I'm getting 80-90fps drops in big fights. aside from that game every game that I play gets a lock 144fps
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yea but our kit kinda sucks with ryzen. I'm trying really hard to be patient rolleyes.gif

I'm doing my 30 day ryzen challenge and switched my main pc and ryzen pc in the living room (I believe it's been 6 days now)

Playing dota 2 is a little bit annoying I'm certain at 3200mhz those minimums will improve. I'm getting 80-90fps drops in big fights. aside from that game every game that I play gets a lock 144fps

I think the 30 day challenge with Ryzen is actually just to see if you can get your memory to its rated speed in that time frame lolll. tongue.gif
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That's interesting. Why does it end up outperforming when there's less strain on the CPU?

I think because there's less stress on the CPU the higher the resolution is. But the 1700X does better in most games than the 1700 regardless of the resolution.

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/amd/ryzen-7-1700x/4
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I think because there's less stress on the CPU the higher the resolution is.

This is one of the biggest misconceptions when it comes to gaming benchmarks. Lower pixel count DOES NOT put extra strain on the CPU. The problem starts when people compare eg 250fps output on 720p vs 70fps 1440p. Ofc when the CPU produces more frames the load will be higher but we introduce a new variable like that. 60fps on 720p vs 60fps 1440p will have almost identical CPU load and strain.
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This is one of the biggest misconceptions when it comes to gaming benchmarks. Lower pixel count DOES NOT put extra strain on the CPU. The problem starts when people compare eg 250fps output on 720p vs 70fps 1440p. Ofc when the CPU produces more frames the load will be higher but we introduce a new variable like that. 60fps on 720p vs 60fps 1440p will have almost identical CPU load and strain.

I think most people get this; more FPS = more CPU load, it's not really less pixels per se. BUT the root cause of more FPS is less pixels to drive, hence more CPU load.
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