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The funny thing is that games that 144Hz matters get 144Hz relatively easy with CPU. Those that dont are those games you play for like 10 hours and move to the next game.
That's a pretty ignorant view of things. Of the newer games in my library, I don't think you could hold 144 Hz steady probably even with a 7700k. Cities, KSP, DS3 and EU4 are all pretty much impossible to run anywhere near that CPU wise. Even looking at Steam's most played games ten out of 25 eat CPU poewr for breakfast. Personally, the games that I tend to play seem to do the exact opposite of what you're saying.
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That's a pretty ignorant view of things. Of the newer games in my library, I don't think you could hold 144 Hz steady probably even with a 7700k. Cities, KSP, DS3 and EU4 are all pretty much impossible to run anywhere near that CPU wise. Even looking at Steam's most played games ten out of 25 eat CPU poewr for breakfast. Personally, the games that I tend to play seem to do the exact opposite of what you're saying.

Dota 2 and CS:GO alone make the more hours than Top 25 combined. I do not care what you play. I do not even want to try to understand what the hell are the game you did not list full name. High fps matters to some people because they play certain MP games. And the biggest problem is you thinking you need to hold 144 fps steady.
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Dota 2 and CS:GO alone make the more hours than Top 25 combined. I do not care what you play. I do not even want to try to understand what the hell are the game you did not list full name. High fps matters to some people because they play certain MP games. And the biggest problem is you thinking you need to hold 144 fps steady.

This would change just like 60fps and 60Hz. Like now the 60fps is lets say the golden standard for 95% of "gamers" bacause a good 1444p 144Hz monitor and the hardware is still rather expensive for most people. Sooner or later that would be the new standard.. or maybe the mass people would go to 4K meaning resolution is everything biggrin.gif I mean everybody tries to push 4k nowadays making their ads..

You do not have to hold them, but you for sure you want and hope so- I mean you have put a lot of money in your hardware and would like to get as much as you can thumb.gif
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This would change just like 60fps and 60Hz. Like now the 60fps is lets say the golden standard for 95% of "gamers" bacause a good 1444p 144Hz monitor and the hardware is still rather expensive for most people. Sooner or later that would be the new standard.. or maybe the mass people would go to 4K meaning resolution is everything biggrin.gif I mean everybody tries to push 4k nowadays making their ads..

You do not have to hold them, but you for sure you want and hope so- I mean you have put a lot of money in your hardware and would like to get as much as you can thumb.gif

For monitors 60Hz will remain here until we cant tell the difference from resolution increase. 4K 60fps is just getting here and we probably need 3-5 years for $200 cards to be able to get 60 fps in 4K with latest games. As long as I get over 60 fps I am happy personally. Most game I am fine as low as 30 fps but drop below and I cant handle it.
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60 fps is borderline slideshow after being used to 165hz and making sure all FPS games at least will hold 165fps or more 100% of the time in which case i will tank the graphics settings until they do. Any game that doesn't require a high degree of mechanical skill to play where frames and input lag are paramount i can enjoy at 60-100 fps especially with gsync.
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60 fps is borderline slideshow after being used to 165hz and making sure all FPS games at least will hold 165fps or more 100% of the time in which case i will tank the graphics settings until they do. Any game that doesn't require a high degree of mechanical skill to play where frames and input lag are paramount i can enjoy at 60-100 fps especially with gsync.

What FPS game? My theory is 2x Console fps. If game runs at 30 fps then run it 60 fps in PC. If 60 fps in console then run it at 120 fps in PC. Personally I am not mechanically fast enough to benefit from 120Hz screen. I am still the bottleneck. When I become a pro by age 30 I will buy me a 240 Hz screen an pwn all you 144Hz nubs.
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Kinda how I feel about all the gaming benchmark rage as of late :

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Curious conclusions there. They all said they had "really bad hiccups and glitching" in Fallout on system 3 and a noticeably inferior performance in GTA5 on system 1 yet in the conclusion they all said there was no difference in any of the games on any of the systems. Of course, system 3 was the 7700K and system 1 was the 5960X so we certainly can't cast any dispersion's on those two can we...
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As games become more optimized for Ryzen and multiple cores... newer titles would have less issues hitting high FPS. So it is not a worry for newer or future titles (especially when Ryzen 2nd gen is coming).

Only old CPU limited games, emulators (Ryzen 2 might solve) and some current titles are an issue. But most of those RUN at over 100 fps... so yeah.

Except STALKER. We need an 8ghz Dual core for that...
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PC 144Hz master race would like a word with you.

I do have 1440p 144 Hz display and to be frank - I really cant tell the difference between, say, around 140 fps'ish and around 90 fps'ish. Granted that is with freesync so I do not have tearing to indicate me that I have dropped under the display native resolution as it is the case with fixed refresh rate screens. I have once dropped as far as around 40'ish fps before I noticed that "gee this is a bit choppy" and took a look at the fps counter. Although at that time I was busy playing the game trying to shoot the other bastard before he shoots me in Planetside 2.
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The funny thing is that games that 144Hz matters get 144Hz relatively easy with CPU. Those that dont are those games you play for like 10 hours and move to the next game.

Depends really. Some of these are not very well optimized in this regard. Planetside 2, for example, has really hard time doing fps above 130'ish with i7-3820 @ 4.3 GHz, that is with shadows off and some other optimizations for easing the CPU load a bit. Then again Planetside 2 is a MMOFPS and MMO's are normally a bit more CPU heavy than your average lobby shooters with lower number of actors running around. Also the Planetside 2 engine is rather ... aged. We are talking here about DX9 and single thread plus handful of auxiliary threads jury rigged into there at some later date for sound and ... something.
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DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K 
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CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i Significantly modded Jupiter .. something alumi... Logitech G700s 
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3M Ergonomic 
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Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Gigabyte 390X G1 Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 
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64 GB Barracuda 3 TB WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB 
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Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB Sythe big shuriken rev B Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 
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DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i Modded Sharkoon VS-3 Logitech G700s 
Mouse Pad
3M Ergonomic 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Sapphire 7950 FleX OC XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 64 GB Samsung 750 GB F3 Barracuda 3 TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB 
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Custom loop Windows 7 Pro 64 bit DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 
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9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i 
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Modded Chieftec Smart WH-02B-B-OB Logitech G700s 3M Ergonomic 
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