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Got the card in earlier and benched my GTX 980 Ti Hybrids OC in SLI against the 1080 Ti Reference. It's nice! Except for the Jet engine in the room. Thank god the ek waterblock is coming soon....I Hope. Backorder from Performance PCS at this time.

Had EVGA Hybrid GTX 980 Ti's OC to 1486MHz GPU with +420 on the Memory. Benched them prior to installing the 1080 Ti. Tested Stock and then with a 110+MHz Core OC and just bumping Temp/Power target and fan to Jet Engine Simulator Mode!! (Damn this stock Ref cooler fan is loud at 100%....70-80% is more tolerable but still reaches 84C in a Heaven Loop) This card begs for better cooling.
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GTX 980 Ti SINGLE CARD OC
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Score: 2508 Heaven 1080p Single

Score: 1568 Heaven 1440p Single

Score: 4230 Valley 1080p Single

Score: 2628 Valley 1440p Single

Firestrike: 16400
19,348 Graphics
15,655 Physics
7,919 Combined

FireStrike_Extreme: 7,981
8,254 Graphics
15,749 Physics
3,799 Combined

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GTX 980 Ti SLI OC
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Score: 4117 Heaven 1080p SLI

Score: 2895 Heaven 1440p SLI

Score: 5466 Valley 1080p SLI

Score: 4187 Valley 1440p SLI


Firestrike: 22,150
31,393 Graphics
15,595 Physics
8,594 Combined

FireStrike_Extreme: 13,261
15,304 Graphics
15,492 Physics
5,981 Combined

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GTX 1080 Ti STOCK
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Score: 3544 Heaven 1080p

Score: 2207 Heaven 1440p

Score: 5658 Valley 1080p

Score: 3807 Valley 1440p

Firestrike: 21,269
27,409 Graphics
17,315 Physics
9,099 Combined

FireStrike_Extreme: 12,286
13,245 Graphics
17,291 Physics
6,214 Combined

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GTX 1080 Ti Power Limit/Temp/Fan Max
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Firestrike: 21,580
28,151 Graphics
17,257 Physics
9,087 Combined

Noticed Change points while OC of 110MHz applied.

2025 Observer from 42C to 58C
2012 Observer from 59C to 63C
2000 Observed from 63C to 68C
1987 Observed from 68+C
post #1082 of 10745
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Originally Posted by richiec77 View Post

Got the card in earlier and benched my GTX 980 Ti Hybrids OC in SLI against the 1080 Ti Reference. It's nice! Except for the Jet engine in the room. Thank god the ek waterblock is coming soon....I Hope. Backorder from Performance PCS at this time.

Had EVGA Hybrid GTX 980 Ti's OC to 1486MHz GPU with +420 on the Memory. Benched them prior to installing the 1080 Ti. Tested Stock and then with a 110+MHz Core OC and just bumping Temp/Power target and fan to Jet Engine Simulator Mode!! (Damn this stock Ref cooler fan is loud at 100%....70-80% is more tolerable but still reaches 84C in a Heaven Loop) This card begs for better cooling.
_________________________________________
GTX 980 Ti SINGLE CARD OC
_________________________________________

Score: 2508 Heaven 1080p Single

Score: 1568 Heaven 1440p Single

Score: 4230 Valley 1080p Single

Score: 2628 Valley 1440p Single

Firestrike: 16400
19,348 Graphics
15,655 Physics
7,919 Combined

FireStrike_Extreme: 7,981
8,254 Graphics
15,749 Physics
3,799 Combined

_________________________________________
GTX 980 Ti SLI OC
_________________________________________

Score: 4117 Heaven 1080p SLI

Score: 2895 Heaven 1440p SLI

Score: 5466 Valley 1080p SLI

Score: 4187 Valley 1440p SLI


Firestrike: 22,150
31,393 Graphics
15,595 Physics
8,594 Combined

FireStrike_Extreme: 13,261
15,304 Graphics
15,492 Physics
5,981 Combined

_________________________________________
GTX 1080 Ti STOCK
_________________________________________

Score: 3544 Heaven 1080p

Score: 2207 Heaven 1440p

Score: 5658 Valley 1080p

Score: 3807 Valley 1440p

Firestrike: 21,269
27,409 Graphics
17,315 Physics
9,099 Combined

FireStrike_Extreme: 12,286
13,245 Graphics
17,291 Physics
6,214 Combined

_____________________________________________
GTX 1080 Ti Power Limit/Temp/Fan Max
_____________________________________________

Firestrike: 21,580
28,151 Graphics
17,257 Physics
9,087 Combined

Noticed Change points while OC of 110MHz applied.

2025 Observer from 42C to 58C
2012 Observer from 59C to 63C
2000 Observed from 63C to 68C
1987 Observed from 68+C

Now this is a proper post, thank you good sir.
post #1083 of 10745
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Originally Posted by vmanuelgm View Post

Which is your max core clock???
What about your Ti???
My card boost's to 1911Mhz with power limit maxed out So +151 core offset gives me 2062Mhz thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by krutoydiesel View Post

Now this is a proper post, thank you good sir.

Thanks. Not going to mess with OC much as the card is limited by thermals with the stock cooler. Once it's under water, the temps will be much better balanced and a more stable OC can be held.
post #1085 of 10745
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

My card boost's to 1911Mhz with power limit maxed out So +151 core offset gives me 2062Mhz thumb.gif

Saw basically the same thing. STOCK as is out of the box: card would boost to 1886 and start clocking up and down due to temps. Once Limit's raised to 120%/90C: card hit 1911.

Also comes close to max power limit as is. Hitting around 111-114%.

Does removing the fan and LED crap off the card increase the amount of power available for the GPU? Anyone who went full waterblock notice this?
Edited by richiec77 - 3/14/17 at 3:18pm
post #1086 of 10745
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Originally Posted by richiec77 View Post

Saw basically the same thing. STOCK as is out of the box: card would boost to 1886 and start clocking up and down due to temps. Once Limit's raised to 120%/90C: card hit 1911.

Also comes close to max power limit as is. Hitting around 111-114%.

Does removing the fan and LED crap off the card increase the amount of power available for the GPU? Anyone who went full waterblock notice this?
yeah i have noticed this with pretty much all of my past gpu's so i don't see why it would be any different with pascal.

Also just from being cooler with a waterblock will make it more efficient.
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Saying that it doesn't work better than high end TIM should requires just as much if not more evidence since you're effectively calling out everybody making these claims.

Bro. You need to calm down. I'm totally open to testing this for myself. In fact I might just go buy some as a side project. Stop making this a liquid metal vs anti liquid metal thing. It's a 'is your evidence good' thing. If you bring up the same level of defense for normal TIM I'd be talking to you all the same.

 

As I've mentioned in my last post: Nobody is saying it doesn't work better. At least I'm not saying that. Let me quote you the relevant sentence from my last post.

 Question isn't whether liquid metal is better, the question is how much better in practice.
 
 Post some facts to the contrary of it NOT working significantly better than high end TIM does, or somebody claiming lackluster results from it. Something please...I'm still waiting. thumb.gif

The burden of proof is not on me. The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that something works. If I swap out TIM with homeopathy or crystal healing the example would be more clear to you. I was examining your evidence. Had you brought up better evidence there would have been no problem.

 
 I made the claim that it does work from my experience with multiple GPUs and works better than high end TIM and certainly better than the default TIM from Nvidia!

If that is all you meant to say, then why did you try to quote thermal conductivity stats for the leading aftermarket thermal pastes? If you are not making the claim that liquid metal TIMs are better than aftermarket pastes then why advocate for liquid metal TIMs? That there are drawbacks is well known. 

 
  You guys are saying it doesn't make a difference over quality TIM. So prove YOUR point! Otherwise you're the classical "hater". You say "it doesn't make much difference" prove to me that it doesn't otherwise it's just borderline nerd logic. Clearly you'll have to take somebody's word for it at some point or better yet try it yourself.

Stop making this emotional. We're discussing reason and evidence. Going down your path is not constructive. Now: I didn't say liquid metal TIMs are not better than non-metal TIMs. Refer to my statements last time:

 

 Question isn't whether liquid metal is better, the question is how much better in practice.

The above quote shows that I am open to metal TIMs being better not just in theory but also in practice.

 
 To me the most important question is safety. If it is I can test in a more detailed manner.

The above quote demonstrates that I think more testing is needed to get a good conclusion.

You lumped me in with lilchronic. If you mean to say that I said 'it doesn't make much difference' then first show me where I said that. Otherwise do not accuse me of saying things I did not say.

 
Moreover, you're assuming that the people that have made claims that it works are all placebo, noobs and or are bull****ting? That's a bit egotistical don't you think.

Actually it's not. Arguably that's what the scientific method is for. Placebo is not something better men can overcome, that's a fool's errand. Placebo and expectation bias is something we overcome by careful documentation of methodology and results, and peer review (and replication). When I accuse other people of inflating their overclocks, I know how it feels. I was tempted to do the exact same thing. This is why I set up a standardized testing methodology and verification process.

 
 Here are a bunch more examples on LM on GPUs on mobile 760-780m GPUs. The 10C claims in this thread are also not valid?

I'm not sure where the 10C comes from in this case. That looks more like 21C to me. It is near 100C so we are dealing with very high temps and cutting many degrees down is relatively easier. However, that is still a bit jump and is worth investigating. This is better than some random guy that talks about 10C decrease on their CPU with H100i (with that literally being the long and short of it).

 

 You can scour the net yourself of countless others if you need further data.

I was merely looking at the evidence you brought forth. If I had said 'You're wrong, liquid TIMs barely make any difference' then maybe I should post some stats of my own. But I didn't do that, did I?

 
 Unless you can tell me how all these people including myself are wrong, prove them incompetent or that they are just buying into the hype or whatever it is you're trying to suggest please stop making refuting claims.

I can easily do that: Two quotes down you tried to make a claim that liquid TIM will improve "10C at 100% TDP". 

 

 If nothing else I made my suggestion trying to helps others. What's your assessment of my intention?

I don't think my assessment of your intention matters. If I think you intended to lie and deceive others I would've come out and said it. It's actually possible for people to be wrong and have good intentions. It's also possible for somebody to be right but go about proving it in a bad way. It's also possible for egos to get in the way of a good discussion.

 
 I'm willing to say that it will help to the tune of ˜10C at 100% TDP for those that want to tackle it. If you don't see a good improvement you're doing something wrong plain and simple.

Again: 10C on what? Doing what? We may not be professional scientists but let's act like we are. I think we'll all be better for it. A no context claim isn't helpful and it only hurts your credibility.

 
 YOU are questioning other's claims, the claimed thermal conductivity ratings of the paste vs LM (which has upwards of 7 times greater thermal conductivity rating) all while suggesting that the difference is only 1-3C. How is the burden of proof is on me?

Because a claim is made and good evidence needs to be brought forth. If you don't understand how burden of proof works you can try QualiaSoup's Youtube video on it.

 
 I frankly looks more and more that you are trying to justify to yourself why you're leaving 10C on the table by falsely discouraging others that may want to try it.

I didn't try to assume your motives. Maybe you shouldn't do it to me.

 

  If it's for the inherent risk factor, personal ability and electrical conductivity reasons associated with LM I get it

But that's like... very important. As I said: First and foremost I want to be sure it's safe. Then I can test it.


Edited by Darkwizzie - 3/14/17 at 3:42pm
   
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Ok. So here's my OC. rolleyes.gif






Honestly I'd hopped for 1500 score or better in heaven.
post #1089 of 10745
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

Dude this has been discussed 4 years ago.
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

My card boost's to 1911Mhz with power limit maxed out So +151 core offset gives me 2062Mhz thumb.gif


Thanks Lil.

Are you on air or watercooled??? Shunt mod???

Sorry but i didnt read your past posts...

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post #1090 of 10745
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Originally Posted by vmanuelgm View Post

Which is your max core clock???
What about your Ti???

I'm at 2038 MHz on the core and +450 MHz on memory. No extra voltage.

I might try maxing out my voltage and OC some more later.
Edited by SlimJ87D - 3/14/17 at 4:06pm
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