Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti Owner's Club
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti Owner's Club - Page 257

post #2561 of 10472
Quote:
Originally Posted by keikei View Post

It varys from 45 to 60fps. Most things on low to med settings. If I were set low for everything, id bet it would be closer to 60 most of the time. I dont mind the frame hit because i like the ao and shadows. During fire fights, it does drop to around 45fps. Very much playable. Still tweaking.

Pretty great for a single card!
post #2562 of 10472
Quote:
Originally Posted by illypso View Post

I was bored biggrin.gif and I like to mod all I have for fun.
Its simple, I did not had liquid metal and where I am I could not find some in my computer shop, but I had some resistor lying around and thought it would be the same just done differently. (reading that https://xdevs.com/guide/pascal_oc/ make it look like it was better this way too)

I am going to try the shunt mod with rear defrost windows repair kit, I try a little with the multimeter and it resistance seems low (one cm long was 30ohm) but not 0 so maybe it will help a little more.

And its weird but I really gain something just by installing and removing the mod, I can now hold 2000GHZ in 3dmark instead of 1850 but I still hit 120% power limit.

Okay 30 ohm is to much on 10mm, on 1mm it would be 3 ohm if width stays the same. those shunts have 5 mOhm what is by alot smaller than 3ohm so at best you lower the 5mOhm to 4.9mOhm.
Edited by Hulio225 - 3/25/17 at 4:23pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Maximus IX Apex 1080 Ti Founders Edition G.Skill DDR4 B-Die 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 960 Nvme Western Digital RED Custom Loop Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 4K Logitech G15 Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W Enthoo Primo 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Asus Xonar STX Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO Headphones Blue Snowball Mic (Alu Edition) 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Maximus IX Apex 1080 Ti Founders Edition G.Skill DDR4 B-Die 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 960 Nvme Western Digital RED Custom Loop Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 4K Logitech G15 Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W Enthoo Primo 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Asus Xonar STX Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO Headphones Blue Snowball Mic (Alu Edition) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2563 of 10472
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulio225 View Post

Okay 30 ohm is to much on 10mm, on 1mm it would be 3 ohm if width stays the same. those shunts have 5 mOhm what is by alot smaller than 3ohm so at best you lower the 5mOhm to 4.9mOhm.

I know but it was a very thin layer so I did a second thick layer and it went to 0.6 ohm for one cm so I decided to try anyways. to much ohm is better than to low. I dont want safe mode on the card. worst senario I will gain minimum power. and its safer than liquid metal once dry. Im waiting for it to dry at the moment.
post #2564 of 10472
Quote:
Originally Posted by illypso View Post

I know but it was a very thin layer so I did a second thick layer and it went to 0.6 ohm for one cm so I decided to try anyways. to much ohm is better than to low. I dont want safe mode on the card. worst senario I will gain minimum power. and its safer than liquid metal once dry. Im waiting for it to dry at the moment.

Still even with 0.6 Ohm lets assume the way you have to overcome is 1mm (which is underestimated), 1/(1/0.06 Ohm + 1/0.005 Ohm)= 4.615 mOhm.
-> Not worth the hassle imho.

Now please explain liquid metal dry argument ;-)
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Maximus IX Apex 1080 Ti Founders Edition G.Skill DDR4 B-Die 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 960 Nvme Western Digital RED Custom Loop Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 4K Logitech G15 Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W Enthoo Primo 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Asus Xonar STX Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO Headphones Blue Snowball Mic (Alu Edition) 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Maximus IX Apex 1080 Ti Founders Edition G.Skill DDR4 B-Die 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 960 Nvme Western Digital RED Custom Loop Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 4K Logitech G15 Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W Enthoo Primo 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Asus Xonar STX Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO Headphones Blue Snowball Mic (Alu Edition) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2565 of 10472
Look at the results from Titan Pascal owners that have done the shunt mod, 1% gain at most. Totally not worth risking a $700 card for a small gain, wait for the 1080Ti bios to be unlocked or for the partner cards to come out with higher power limits.

I'm excited to see what extra performance is available with a higher power limit, because 99.9% of all current Titan XP and 1080Ti will hit a wall at 2150MHz.
post #2566 of 10472
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulio225 View Post

Still even with 0.6 Ohm lets assume the way you have to overcome is 1mm (which is underestimated), 1/(1/0.06 Ohm + 1/0.005 Ohm)= 4.615 mOhm.
-> Not worth the hassle imho.

Now please explain liquid metal dry argument ;-)

Its just that the stuff I used dry in second and its more like a primer paint so it is less prone to drip after than the liquid metal.
Was easier to apply too. (also the only conductive thing I have witch is liquid and not 0ohm)
So if it would have work the same it would have been a better option.

But it did not lower the resistance by a lots
by like 5% but I cant get my clock past 1950ghz without driver crash now. a little like the resistor mod did but less drastic.

So my card don't want more physical power mod, I will remove the "paint" and test back to 2000ghz
.
post #2567 of 10472
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrKenzie View Post

Look at the results from Titan Pascal owners that have done the shunt mod, 1% gain at most. Totally not worth risking a $700 card for a small gain, wait for the 1080Ti bios to be unlocked or for the partner cards to come out with higher power limits.

I'm excited to see what extra performance is available with a higher power limit, because 99.9% of all current Titan XP and 1080Ti will hit a wall at 2150MHz.

I have done the shunt mod for example on a 1080ti, the risk is 0 if you are not person who has some comprehension issues... but ill give you the point that the gains aren't that high.

but what a lot of people don't understand is the fact, maybe the fps which you gain aren't that hight, yes 1% maybe, but frame time differences are significantly lower than without shunt mod.
in a synthetic benchmark you won't notice that much of a difference but while playing it can, cuz the borderline fluctuation is gone!!
EDIT:
Quote:
Originally Posted by illypso View Post

Its just that the stuff I used dry in second and its more like a primer paint so it is less prone to drip after than the liquid metal.

.

There are things called "Laws of physics" or something like that tongue.gif

surface tension is something which cant be overcome, by even Liquid Metal if not apllied like retarded to much!

No risk of dripping, seriously
Edited by Hulio225 - 3/25/17 at 5:24pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Maximus IX Apex 1080 Ti Founders Edition G.Skill DDR4 B-Die 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 960 Nvme Western Digital RED Custom Loop Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 4K Logitech G15 Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W Enthoo Primo 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Asus Xonar STX Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO Headphones Blue Snowball Mic (Alu Edition) 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Maximus IX Apex 1080 Ti Founders Edition G.Skill DDR4 B-Die 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 960 Nvme Western Digital RED Custom Loop Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 4K Logitech G15 Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W Enthoo Primo 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Asus Xonar STX Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO Headphones Blue Snowball Mic (Alu Edition) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2568 of 10472
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulio225 View Post

I have done the shunt mod for example on a 1080ti, the risk is 0 if you are not person who has some comprehension issues... but ill give you the point that the gains aren't that high.

but what a lot of people don't understand is the fact, maybe the fps which you gain aren't that hight, yes 1% maybe, but frame time differences are significantly lower than without shunt mod.
in a synthetic benchmark you won't notice that much of a difference but while playing it can, cuz the borderline fluctuation is gone!!
EDIT:
There are things called "Laws of physics" or something like that tongue.gif

surface tension is something which cant be overcome, by even Liquid Metal if not apllied like retarded to much!

No risk of dripping, seriously

That's a good point, I didn't take frame time into consideration. Do you know if anyone has done a review showing the difference it made?
post #2569 of 10472
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrKenzie View Post

That's a good point, I didn't take frame time into consideration. Do you know if anyone has done a review showing the difference it made?

I can link a video of Gamers Nexus where they do the gehetto hybrid mod, removing the thermal throttling issue and getting into power limit issues and they are messuring lower / worse frame times with overclocks than without.

which is proving my point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdYEqTolk0Q&t=1s

EDIT:

Somewhere in the comments, Steve is even stating that the lower frame times are a result of borderline fluctuations cuz of power limt crap
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Maximus IX Apex 1080 Ti Founders Edition G.Skill DDR4 B-Die 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 960 Nvme Western Digital RED Custom Loop Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 4K Logitech G15 Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W Enthoo Primo 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Asus Xonar STX Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO Headphones Blue Snowball Mic (Alu Edition) 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Maximus IX Apex 1080 Ti Founders Edition G.Skill DDR4 B-Die 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 960 Nvme Western Digital RED Custom Loop Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 4K Logitech G15 Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W Enthoo Primo 
MouseAudioAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Asus Xonar STX Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO Headphones Blue Snowball Mic (Alu Edition) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2570 of 10472
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulio225 View Post

I can link a video of Gamers Nexus where they do the gehetto hybrid mod, removing the thermal throttling issue and getting into power limit issues and they are messuring lower / worse frame times with overclocks than without.

which is proving my point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdYEqTolk0Q&t=1s

EDIT:

Somewhere in the comments, Steve is even stating that the lower frame times are a result of borderline fluctuations cuz of power limt crap

I might do some frametime tests now on my Titan as I haven't looked at them before. I hold a steady 2114MHz on most games, with no power limit mods.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: NVIDIA
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti Owner's Club