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Anyone still running a 2600k and using a GTX 1080 TI @4k Ultra settings in Battlefield 1? I cant tell if I'm bottlenecking my GTX 1080. I want to buy a GTX 1080 TI but if my 2600k is bottlenecking my 1080 getting a TI will just be worse. In that case ill just upgrade the proc and motherboard instead of the vid card and get the Evga TI when it is released.

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I'd upgrade that cpu tbh.

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I would have to agree. I'm just sitting here with a 4820k @ 4.6ghz wondering the same thing (somehow I feel a little better now) thumb.gif

The question was about BF1 @4K, which would absolutely not be bottlenecked by a decent cooler and RAM upgrade to the existing 2600K overclocked. Instead of spending $700+ on new platform, I would recommend getting 16GB of 2400MHz DDR3 and decent air cooler like the D15 and oc that 2600K to 4.6-4.8GHz. If the goal was <=1440p and high refresh, I'd understand the suggestions to upgrade the CPU better.
 
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I checked this a.m. and you are right. Got my max core 2080MHZ stable. Only issue I have is core and voltages jump from 1.052v and in between to 1.093v up and downwhile running Heaven, and I'm not hitting the power limit, temps around 50C, not sure why.

At 1.062v with max +152 I think it is no custom power curve it stays at 1.062v 99% of the time in Heaven. redface.gif

I might have the voltage numbers a bit off, I'm not at home to check.

Wait, what did you do to get 180 core?

Actually meant to say 2080mhz core, not sure what that is on the slider, custom voltage curve with 2080 topping off at 1.093v.

Edit: On my way home from evening shift is why I can't check the + whatever.

Second edit: With fans and pump at 100% I can bench at 2083 core, + 667 memory, I have a decent card. biggrin.gif

Highest TimeSpy bench though was at +172 no custom curve and +658 memory I think it was. Without a custom curve the clocks and voltages don't seem to drop or fluctuate, why I think it was my best result.
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The question was about BF1 @4K, which would absolutely not be bottlenecked by a decent cooler and RAM upgrade to the existing 2600K overclocked. Instead of spending $700+ on new platform, I would recommend getting 16GB of 2400MHz DDR3 and decent air cooler like the D15 and oc that 2600K to 4.6-4.8GHz. If the goal was <=1440p and high refresh, I'd understand the suggestions to upgrade the CPU better.
I should have mentioned that my CPU is overclocked (most stable overclock) to 4.2 and my cooler is very good. Never gets hotter than 60 degrees Celsius and I've upgraded to 16 gigs of memory. I'm just curious to know if someone with a similar setup can tell me what they get in terms of FPS at 4k in Battlefield1 with every maxed out and AA off.
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Actually meant to say 2080mhz core, not sure what that is on the slider, custom voltage curve with 2080 topping off at 1.093v.

Edit: On my way home from evening shift is why I can't check the + whatever.

Second edit: With fans and pump at 100% I can bench at 2083 core, + 667 memory, I have a decent card. biggrin.gif

Highest TimeSpy bench though was at +172 no custom curve and +658 memory I think it was. Without a custom curve the clocks and voltages don't seem to drop or fluctuate, why I think it was my best result.

Damn impressive! thumb.gif
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I would concur with that. I would point out that max framerates are less important than smooth better lows unless you aren't maxing monitor refresh rate (or are at least very close) or one has a sizable lead in max frames, not the 2 or 3 fps in this case.. I wouldn't ever recomend somebody go backwards in platforms,, but, if you are on a 4690k or a 4790k on z97, it's a no brainer to upgrade to a 5775c for peanuts. Except if you are like @Alucardis666 and have a cpu/mobo combo worth $2,000 and are using it just for gaming and only have 1 1080ti. In that case I actually WOULD recommend getting a 5775c/z97/another 1080Ti, and a ultrawide 21:9 g-sync for the same price thumb.gif

Why would someone with a new build choose a CPU that is older architecture and 2 years old? I'd much rather start with the newer higher clocking 7700k. It will hold its value much better in the foreseeable future.
 
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Actually meant to say 2080mhz core, not sure what that is on the slider, custom voltage curve with 2080 topping off at 1.093v.

Edit: On my way home from evening shift is why I can't check the + whatever.

Second edit: With fans and pump at 100% I can bench at 2083 core, + 667 memory, I have a decent card. biggrin.gif

Highest TimeSpy bench though was at +172 no custom curve and +658 memory I think it was. Without a custom curve the clocks and voltages don't seem to drop or fluctuate, why I think it was my best result.
Making me curious to see what my card can do on water with shunt mod.
    
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Well I'm about to mount an Antec 620 onto my 1080 Ti... anything I should know about beforehand?
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Hi guys,

Today I tried GR: Wildland and I was astonished how my 4930k at 4.5ghz is at 45% utilization while the first core is at 65%. I still have a single GTX 1080ti and I am about to receive the other one in a week or so. Already received a block but I won't install it right now as I don't want to flush my loop several times. Will wait for everythings to arrive.

I hope SLI will give great performance in my games and I won't be CPU bound.
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Hi guys,

Today I tried GR: Wildland and I was astonished how my 4930k at 4.5ghz is at 45% utilization while the first core is at 65%. I still have a single GTX 1080ti and I am about to receive the other one in a week or so. Already received a block but I won't install it right now as I don't want to flush my loop several times. Will wait for everythings to arrive.

I hope SLI will give great performance in my games and I won't be CPU bound.

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that'
s not true but i don't feel like arguing.

Please expound?
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How do you know you're not being performance capped? That looks like the normal state of things to me with a maxed out OC running into the TDP limits.

The Vop reason means that it can't boost any higher because you've run out of voltage bins to use. You've unlocked the couple of extra bins with the increased voltage slider in Afterburner, and the BIOS is locked and won't allow any more, so it won't increase the voltage and frequency any more because it's hit the 'hard' Nvidia BIOS limit. If you dial the voltage slider back in afterburner you won't see VOp as a perfcap reason anymore as the highest voltage bin will never be used.

PWR means you're power limited, and it's actually throttling your clocks back to ensure you don't go over your TDP limit.

Interesting that it's happening at as low as 108% TDP, because the slider in Afterburner goes up to 20%. What a lot of people don't know is that in addition to the overall power limit there are also sub-limits within the BIOS for how much power it can draw from the PCIe slot, and each of the PCIe power connectors on the card. Depending on how the BIOS was set up (every card is different, although the FEs should all be the same) the card could be running into one of the individual limits before it hits the +20% overall limit you set in Afterburner.

The only way around that and to stop it from power throttling is to hard-modify the card and shunt the current sense resistors. GPU-Z refreshes too slowly to reflect he transient TDP throttling in its core clock readout a lot of the time. TDP throttling happens much quicker than the steps between voltage / temperature bins.

I think that the 108% TDP limit even though it's set at 120% is also existent in 1080 FE's.
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Says who? EVGA is already on the record that their FTW3 card has a 280W TDP target versus 250W of the lesser cards and the FE models.

http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6696-KR

The reviews so far about the AIB cards have been infuriatingly silent on what the TDP limits are, but you can read between the lines from their power consumption results.

Most of the reviews so far show the AIB cards to be 30-50w higher than the FE as far as peak power consumption goes, and that makes sense given I'd expect a lot of the AIB cards to ship with a 280w or even 300w power target out of the box. That's the whole point of why they're beefing up their VRMs.

Thanks for the confirmation. When I read in this thread that the power limits of the FE's and AIB cards are the same, I was like "impossible and it doesn't make sense".
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