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post #3471 of 10828
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Originally Posted by ThingyNess View Post

It looks that way so far, with the following caveats:

1) You lose one of your DisplayPort outputs as the Asus card only has two.
2) Your max fan RPM will be lower (3600rpm) versus the FE card's 4800rpm, so if you are overvolting or coming close to the stock cooler's limits, you will thermal throttle worse now instead of TDP throttling. This may or may not be desireable depending on the type of load you were putting on the card. You're sort of trading some steady state performance for peak performance this way.
3) The stock fan curve on the Asus tries to turn the fans off at idle, so you might notice the blower speed moving around a bit more at idle temps, and your idle temps being higher than before. This is easily solvable with a custom fan curve in your overclocking program of choice - this won't get you higher than 3600rpm, though.

I'm using the half shroud 1080 hybrid method so idc about fan speeds. Im scared about melting the power inputs like what happened with the 1080 FE and that Asus bios
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How to burn your card tongue.gif LOL

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post #3473 of 10828
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Originally Posted by KedarWolf View Post

Can confirm, top display port does not work. redface.gif

Edit: You do know in GPU-Z and Afterburner you want the Power Limit lower while benching, right? If it says 108% while running Heaven that's great, not bad!!

Under water my power limit never went over 111% with zero throttling.

And here is TimeSpy exact same settings, 2100 core, 6162 memory.
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Originally Posted by ThingyNess View Post

Yeah, the displayport being disabled is normal as ASUS has that mapped to their 2nd HDMI port.
You do lose some peak cooling headroom on an FE card too if you haven't swapped coolers or watercooled your card, as the FE BIOS has the max fan rpm programmed to 4800rpm.
You will also inherit the 'zero fan rpm idle' of the Asus card, although the card will heat up enough at idle to turn the fan on around 55-60c I'd imagine, so no worries about potentially bricking it that way.

Are you saying that you're still showing as 'Pwr' limited in GPU-Z when you hit 108% even with the slider maxed to 120% in Afterburner? Or does it just not exceed 108% in general?

Yeah, I saw 'Pwr' under "PerfCap Reason", even with power % at ~108. GPU voltage was down to about 1V in Heaven benchmark. My card locks up past ~1940 mhz at that voltage.
post #3474 of 10828
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Originally Posted by Addsome View Post

I'm using the half shroud 1080 hybrid method so idc about fan speeds. Im scared about melting the power inputs like what happened with the 1080 FE and that Asus bios

If you are rocking a hybrid cooler I'd say you're okay. If you're talking about the 1080FE and the Asus XOC BIOS with the 1.25v vcore and no TDP limit, that's kind of a different story and was a much bigger risk. You're only adding 10% to the stock 300w TDP cap.
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Originally Posted by braindamage View Post


Yeah, I saw 'Pwr' under "PerfCap Reason", even with power % at ~108. GPU voltage was down to about 1V in Heaven benchmark. My card locks up past ~1940 mhz at that voltage.

That's interesting. I've seen that happen on some other Pascal cards too, including my Strix 1070. My hypothesis is that the card is hitting one of the other individual power limits within the BIOS other than the 'overall' limit that most people look at.

There are also individual limits set for the Motherboard +12 from the PCIe slot and the PCIe1 and PCIe2 connectors, and exceeding any one of these will also cause a 'Pwr' perfcap reason even if the overall limit hasn't been breached.

Each card maps its phases differently - one might choose to power the memory and one or two of the Vcore phases from the motherboard +12, and all the rest of the phases from the PCIe power connectors. I did see one 1080 non-Ti card (Zotac?) that actually only powered the memory from the motherboard slot and split the VCore phases evenly between two 8-pin PCIe connectors. In that case you'd be highly unlikely to ever hit any of the smaller individual limits.

Sigh, I might have to dig through the NVAPI and see if it exposes any more details over and above what GPU-Z gives us.
post #3476 of 10828
My MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti arrives tomorrow. Can't wait! Selling this Founders Edition 1080 Ti. I have a small ITX case and also use speakers while gaming. The noise of the founders edition cooler is just too much plus I want 2,000Mhz. In order to get 2GHz clock speed on the founders edition I have to run 75-80% fan speed, and even then its not a stable 2GHz. Way too loud. My Founders Edition card usually hovers around 1800Mhz at 60% fan speed. I figure if I can get 2Ghz out of the MSI Gaming X its a worthwhile exchange. I already have a buyer lined up for the FE card too.

I game at 1440P 165Hz so every little bit helps. I also stream to my Nvidia Shield connected to my 4K OLED TV.
Edited by Pandora's Box - 4/3/17 at 9:13pm
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How to burn your card tongue.gif LOL

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Man, that's SEXY!
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Originally Posted by rcfc89 View Post

The 50 and 63% are fan speeds. Gpu usage is 98-99% on both. Not sure why Msi has it arse backwards on BF1. I'll take another one showing all threads.
ah, ok. turn on your gpu power usage, too.

From your newer pic, i wouldnt call that bottlenecked per say but it is really close, even with all those cores.
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So flashing the ASUS Bios will give us an extra (but possibly dangerous) 30 Watts?
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Sorry guys, a bit unrelated to the heavy discussion about overclocking above.
I'm thinking of fitting the EVGA AIO (1080/1070) hybrid kit on my 1080 ti. My biggest question is, are you able to put on the evga shroud on top of your 1080 ti?
What I mean is, gamersnexus has done a full video on this, and he basically just leaves it as it is, just fits on the water cooler and has that sticking out. Looks quite ugly imo and if that's really the case I was thinking of going for a much cheaper approach with my own custom cpu water cooler + nzxt case gpu case.

Thanks biggrin.gif would be very helpful if I could get some feedbacks off those who decided to custom water cool their 1080 ti's.
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