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Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post

Man, this makes me miss my MSI 980 Ti, but the MSI Bios is running much better than the ASUS Bios. It doesn't draw as much power for whatever reason. This is at 2088 Mhz on the core. It performs on par with the Stock BIOs. But what will be nice is avoiding the power limiting.


Thanks for posting. I'm going to assume Asus loosened the memory timings vs stock to give people the illusion that Asus cards OC VRAM better.

Has anyone who flashed the MSI BIOS noticed if 100% fan is gimped like with the Strix BIOS? I need 4800RPM.
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Bling bling, got freebies with my order of my 1080 Ti.

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Originally Posted by prelude514 View Post

Has anyone who flashed the MSI BIOS noticed if 100% fan is gimped like with the Strix BIOS? I need 4800RPM.

2637 is max RPM in GPUZ with fan @ 100% and it's very tolerable, so gimped more than the asus card for sure.
Edited by alucardis666 - 4/4/17 at 8:35pm
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2637 is max RPM in GPUZ with fan @ 100% and it's very tolerable, so gimped more than the asus card for sure.

Dang, that sucks. Thanks for the info.
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Does your max power limit only go up to 117%? I just flashed the MSI BIOS and it only goes up to 117 for me.

Nominal target TDP of 280W according to techpowerup, so the 17% increase gets you to 327W.
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Nominal target TDP of 280W according to techpowerup, so the 17% increase gets you to 327W.

I'm good with that wink.gif
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i dont know, did you watch the video in 4k? Looks pretty great. Not better texture wise than BF1, but, it was just LUSH. very nice with the mod.

watched it in 1440p here and thought it looked pretty good!
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Yes this card is truly amazing, a word of advice though, in case you haven't read the entire thread up until this point, OC'ing the memory too high can actually reduce the performance. I initially read this in HardOCP's review where they criticized Guru3D's methodology of just setting the memory OC to +600 or whatever and when I got my card I discovered that they were indeed correct. Running The Witcher 3, with multiple Afterburner overclocking profiles on hotkey, switching between +150 core / +400 memory to +150 core / +500 memory, both PT: 120% drops my FPS a good 3-4 FPS at 2560x1440. And the same holds true for synthetic benchmarks. Someone on here had a graph and they referred to the phenomenon as error correction.

I've taken the time to investigate this further and for me +400 is my card's sweet-spot, at +387 performance dips and at +415 performance dips. +600 lol, the card's performance takes a massive dive.

Following up on a few previous comments In terms of comparing the performance to overclocked 980 Ti, my former card, I saw a 60% improvement in Firestrike Extreme and a 50% improvement in Firestrike Normal and my 980 Ti was a good overclocker that did 1500MHz core / 8GHz memory with only 1.218v (load temps under 45C).

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/11780853/fs/12060712

Only the former score is relevant to me as I'm at 2560x1440. This card begins to widen the gap with it's Ti predecessor the higher the resolution.

As far as thermals go, I'm actually seeing very good performance with a side-panel fan and having removed the piece of metal in the PCI-E slot area between slot's 1 and 2 that obscure the exhaust of the card. I'm about 10C lower than average. I'm seeing 70C overclocked at 70% RPM (1:1 ratio), this is with PT at 120%, +150 core, +400 memory. If I set the fan to 80% the temps don't exceed 65C. If I set the fan to 100% the temps don't exceed 57C. Yes, this is loud, but I use headphones and don't notice the fan at 70% RPM. I can hear it at 80% RPM but don't use that RPM as there is no point, there is no discernible thermal throttling until 73-75C. It will hold 2.0GHz at 70C.

I point out the mod to the PCI-E bracket area in the following video, which can be accomplished with a pair of needlenose pliers and gently twisting this area obstructing the exhaust portion of the card off of the bracket area. Someone who took this advice reported it reducing their load temps by 5C alone over on PCgamer.com:

http://www.pcgamer.com/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-overclocking/#comment-3201515832

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74RF5U3-cLg

(In this video I had memory at +500, hence the aggressive core clock throttling, and here also I was using the factory thermal compound, you can see it at 67-69C or so with the fan at 78% RPM, I've revisited this same area with Gelid GC Extreme on the core and with similar ambient it is now at 63-65C with the fan set to 80% RPM)

And here it's running Heaven at 70-71C with a 1:1 fan profile, overclocked, with PT at 120% before Gelid GC Extreme. I plan to do another update on another morning when I don't have to work and ambient is comparable to the two previous videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlIkwNloiE8

Oh and I'm #2 in the world with an i7 4930k and a single 1080 Ti and the person above me apparently won the silicon lottery as they have their 4930k at 4.7GHz. I'm not typically one to boast, I found this out after I was trying to work out a mysterious lower than average Combined score in Firestrike (7700) which I resolved by setting 3DMark.exe's priority to "High Priority" via Process Hacker and also forcing 3DMark to run it's 64 bit exe in the launcher options. Score went up a thousand points.

So yeah, FE runs fantastic if you address your airflow, I was expecting it to run around 80C and exhibit all kinds of thermal throttling, now I'm seeing it run at 65C with a 1:1 fan profile in some games that tend to not get the PT above 100% too much such as Titanfall 2. The Witcher 3 in 3D Vision is a different story, PT is always pegged, but even then temps still don't exceed 70C with 1:1 ratio and Gelid GC Extreme, an RPM that truly doesn't bother me with my Astro A40's on. Yeah at 100% RPM this thing is obnoxious, but at 70% it's perfectly fine IMHO.

LOVE this card.


thank you very much for the advice!! I will do some testing with lowering the memory clocks!! thumb.gif
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The lower memory OC = better performance is true. I get better results at +350 than I do at +500.
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I hate to be the one to say it but I would run FE in that case vs. that AIB card. I've owned that same cooler, my previous card was a 980 Ti MSI 6G Gaming (I invariably swapped that cooler, which was wholly inadequate, i.e. 70C+ load, for an AIO) and although you have it oriented so that it is getting cool air from outside of the case it is expelling heat from the sides of the cooler with nowhere to go but circulate in that poor Silverstone Raven case.

There is really next-to-no performance to be had with that card over FE. Another 20W maybe?

Reference is better than AIB for small form factor cases as they push the heat out of the case. I'm sure you know all of this.

I have a post a ways up where I'm running games at 100% load at 2.0GHz with 67C.

Again, I would NOT go with that card over FE. There is no advantage in a case with proper cooling, and you sir, do not have a spacious, well ventilated case to accommodate said card even if there was a performance advantage.

Here's my Firestrike Extreme, I'm also seeing 67C load at 70% RPM. So yeah, do yourself a favor and keep the FE and sell / return the AIB card.

If you were running a 900D or my case it would be different. But youre not, youre running a case the size of a cereal box.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12060712

Actually you're wrong. I had a founders edition 1080 Ti before this Gaming X. My CPU temps haven't changed at all and my Nvme drive temp hasn't changed at all. The only thing that's changed is the GPU is now cooler, quieter, and overclocks to 2Ghz with ease. There are plent of air vents around the GPU side of the case. The CPU gets fresh air on the opposite side of the case. Have a feeling you don't know the layout of this case. GPU and CPU/Motherboard compartments are completely closed off from one another.

Edit: and there's no way you are at 2Ghz at 67C with 70% fan speed on a founders edition 1080Ti. I'm sure other posters here would agree with me on that statement. Even if you somehow magically are - enjoy your wind tunnel. 70% fan speed on a founders edition card is very loud. You even stated in a previous post that you are getting 70C at 70%. Contradicting yourself here buddy. " I'm seeing 70C overclocked at 70% RPM (1:1 ratio), this is with PT at 120%, +150 core, +400 memory. If I set the fan to 80% the temps don't exceed 65C. If I set the fan to 100% the temps don't exceed 57C". In another post you state 65C at 65%. You are all over the place man. You also state that you dont go over 100% power target hardly ever but in some games you hit 120% power limit. If you are hitting 120% power limit - you are not at 2Ghz core clock at all. Probably around 1750-1800.
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The lower memory OC = better performance is true. I get better results at +350 than I do at +500.
It's called error correction penalty.
 
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