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Originally Posted by VanuSovereignty View Post

Yes this card is truly amazing, a word of advice though, in case you haven't read the entire thread up until this point, OC'ing the memory too high can actually reduce the performance. I initially read this in HardOCP's review where they criticized Guru3D's methodology of just setting the memory OC to +600 or whatever and when I got my card I discovered that they were indeed correct. Running The Witcher 3, with multiple Afterburner overclocking profiles on hotkey, switching between +150 core / +400 memory to +150 core / +500 memory, both PT: 120% drops my FPS a good 3-4 FPS at 2560x1440. And the same holds true for synthetic benchmarks. Someone on here had a graph and they referred to the phenomenon as error correction.

I've taken the time to investigate this further and for me +400 is my card's sweet-spot, at +387 performance dips and at +415 performance dips. +600 lol, the card's performance takes a massive dive.

Following up on a few previous comments In terms of comparing the performance to overclocked 980 Ti, my former card, I saw a 60% improvement in Firestrike Extreme and a 50% improvement in Firestrike Normal and my 980 Ti was a good overclocker that did 1500MHz core / 8GHz memory with only 1.218v (load temps under 45C).

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/11780853/fs/12060712

Only the former score is relevant to me as I'm at 2560x1440. This card begins to widen the gap with it's Ti predecessor the higher the resolution.

As far as thermals go, I'm actually seeing very good performance with a side-panel fan and having removed the piece of metal in the PCI-E slot area between slot's 1 and 2 that obscure the exhaust of the card. I'm about 10C lower than average. I'm seeing 70C overclocked at 70% RPM (1:1 ratio), this is with PT at 120%, +150 core, +400 memory. If I set the fan to 80% the temps don't exceed 65C. If I set the fan to 100% the temps don't exceed 57C. Yes, this is loud, but I use headphones and don't notice the fan at 70% RPM. I can hear it at 80% RPM but don't use that RPM as there is no point, there is no discernible thermal throttling until 73-75C. It will hold 2.0GHz at 70C.

I point out the mod to the PCI-E bracket area in the following video, which can be accomplished with a pair of needlenose pliers and gently twisting this area obstructing the exhaust portion of the card off of the bracket area. Someone who took this advice reported it reducing their load temps by 5C alone over on PCgamer.com:

http://www.pcgamer.com/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-overclocking/#comment-3201515832

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74RF5U3-cLg

(In this video I had memory at +500, hence the aggressive core clock throttling, and here also I was using the factory thermal compound, you can see it at 67-69C or so with the fan at 78% RPM, I've revisited this same area with Gelid GC Extreme on the core and with similar ambient it is now at 63-65C with the fan set to 80% RPM)

And here it's running Heaven at 70-71C with a 1:1 fan profile, overclocked, with PT at 120% before Gelid GC Extreme. I plan to do another update on another morning when I don't have to work and ambient is comparable to the two previous videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlIkwNloiE8

Oh and I'm #2 in the world with an i7 4930k and a single 1080 Ti and the person above me apparently won the silicon lottery as they have their 4930k at 4.7GHz. I'm not typically one to boast, I found this out after I was trying to work out a mysterious lower than average Combined score in Firestrike (7700) which I resolved by setting 3DMark.exe's priority to "High Priority" via Process Hacker and also forcing 3DMark to run it's 64 bit exe in the launcher options. Score went up a thousand points.

So yeah, FE runs fantastic if you address your airflow, I was expecting it to run around 80C and exhibit all kinds of thermal throttling, now I'm seeing it run at 65C with a 1:1 fan profile in some games that tend to not get the PT above 100% too much such as Titanfall 2. The Witcher 3 in 3D Vision is a different story, PT is always pegged, but even then temps still don't exceed 70C with 1:1 ratio and Gelid GC Extreme, an RPM that truly doesn't bother me with my Astro A40's on. Yeah at 100% RPM this thing is obnoxious, but at 70% it's perfectly fine IMHO.

LOVE this card.
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How can the score be the same if the stock bios is hitting power limit and downclocking while the MSI bios stays at a constant 2088Mhz?

I think the MSI and stock are equal, the scores are a tiny bit off but still in a margin of error.

The ASUS bios just ran hotter and I had a loud coil whine, it was bizarre. Even my speakers had a him that matched the frequency of the coil whine from the card. The ASUS bios caused my card to get hot, it probably had random thermal throttles with my card approaching 51C even though I have a x41 which is quite beefy for a AIO.

All I know is that with a EVGA hybrid kit, or H55, x31, these cards run quite hotter. They need a 280mm radiator to probably​stay under 51C ifnyoubdraw 330 Watts or greater. Or we need a bios mod to modify thermal throttling.
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So I flashed the MSI bios, idle clock is now 202. rolleyes.gif

Time to start testing again. thumb.gif
oh boy! this may be the one. ill have another for you to try by thursday.
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2637 is max RPM in GPUZ with fan @ 100% and it's very tolerable, so gimped more than the asus card for sure.

Makes sense, the MSI cards has larger fans so don't have to spin as fast.
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60% improvement is pretty darn good. I guess i am just attempting to justify $1300AUD for an fps upgrade.
But i did invest in a expensive monitor, guess i need the grunt to run it to the full potential. thumb.gif
of course, man, otherwise you WASTED a ton of money on that monitor sneaky.gif
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I think the MSI and stock are equal, the scores are a tiny bit off but still in a margin of error.

The ASUS bios just ran hotter and I had a loud coil whine, it was bizarre. Even my speakers had a him that matched the frequency of the coil whine from the card. The ASUS bios caused my card to get hot, it probably had random thermal throttles with my card approaching 51C even though I have a x41 which is quite beefy for a AIO.

All I know is that with a EVGA hybrid kit, or H55, x31, these cards run quite hotter. They need a 280mm radiator to probably​stay under 51C ifnyoubdraw 330 Watts or greater. Or we need a bios mod to modify thermal throttling.

I have a 1080 hyrbid kit on my 1080ti and even with Asus bios and hitting 120% power limit at 1.075V I was not going over 47C.
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Man, this makes me miss my MSI 980 Ti, but the MSI Bios is running much better than the ASUS Bios. It doesn't draw as much power for whatever reason. This is at 2088 Mhz on the core. It performs on par with the Stock BIOs. But what will be nice is avoiding the power limiting.

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Bling bling, got freebies with my order of my 1080 Ti.

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say what? details, man! That's a lot of swag and I have the same gpu on order form the egg already left california headed east.
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Actually you're wrong. I had a founders edition 1080 Ti before this Gaming X. My CPU temps haven't changed at all and my Nvme drive temp hasn't changed at all. The only thing that's changed is the GPU is now cooler, quieter, and overclocks to 2Ghz with ease. There are plent of air vents around the GPU side of the case. The CPU gets fresh air on the opposite side of the case. Have a feeling you don't know the layout of this case. GPU and CPU/Motherboard compartments are completely closed off from one another.

Edit: and there's no way you are at 2Ghz at 67C with 70% fan speed on a founders edition 1080Ti. I'm sure other posters here would agree with me on that statement. Even if you somehow magically are - enjoy your wind tunnel. 70% fan speed on a founders edition card is very loud. You even stated in a previous post that you are getting 70C at 70%. Contradicting yourself here buddy. " I'm seeing 70C overclocked at 70% RPM (1:1 ratio), this is with PT at 120%, +150 core, +400 memory. If I set the fan to 80% the temps don't exceed 65C. If I set the fan to 100% the temps don't exceed 57C"
to be fair he explains it above. He has done a case mod that gave him 4-5c by improving the gpu's exhaust, he has a MASSIVE side fan giving the card fresh air and cooling the backplate and vrm by shear windpower, and he has done the thermal paste mod for another 4-5c by replacing crap with GeLidd, which is almost as good as thermal grizzly. I get basically the same temps as him and i have a heatsink with thermal paste and an extra fan on top of the backplate and did the thermal grizzley mod.If i cut the metal like he did, i'd probably beat him in temps. But my silicon itself is a dog so I switched, but if i could hold 2.-something Id probably be just as happy as ole vince there.
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say what? details, man! That's a lot of swag and I have the same gpu on order form the egg already left california headed east.

There was a special pre-order through an Aorus Community manager in the FB group. They allocated 10 of each (Aorus Xtreme, Aorus, Gaming G1), you could pre-order directly from Gigabyte by requesting a form from the rep and filling your payment info.

The perks were:
- The card would ship for free on the 3rd of April(1 day before Newegg) with 2 Day Air, mine was ground since I was in the same state got it today biggrin.gif
- Guaranteed availability once you filled the form and they accepted it.
- Freebies that they kept a secret they were a nice surprise. I only paid for the card and got all that!
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to be fair he explains it above. He has done a case mod that gave him 4-5c by improving the gpu's exhaust, he has a MASSIVE side fan giving the card fresh air and cooling the backplate and vrm by shear windpower, and he has done the thermal paste mod for another 4-5c by replacing crap with GeLidd, which is almost as good as thermal grizzly. I get basically the same temps as him and i have a heatsink with thermal paste and an extra fan on top of the backplate and did the thermal grizzley mod.If i cut the metal like he did, i'd probably beat him in temps. But my silicon itself is a dog so I switched, but if i could hold 2.-something Id probably be just as happy as ole vince there.

Wait he cut the metal on the exhaust part of the card? Lol RIP warranty. Fact is there's no way he is holding 2GHz at 70% fan speed on a founders edition. If he is then his case must sound like a wind tunnel.
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