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I got 8c on load over default paste on my 980ti, and got ~6 on the founder's. You may only gain a degree or two, but it should register some gain. mx4 is decent, but even the maths say it's half as good as kyro.

Only half as good huh? The hype is real. I'm VERY curious to see how it affects my CPU and GPU temps.

Use the applicator to make as thin a layer as possible right? Or do I just stick with the rice grain method?
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Originally Posted by Addsome View Post

I have a 1080 hyrbid kit on my 1080ti and even with Asus bios and hitting 120% power limit at 1.075V I was not going over 47C.

Are you running​ at 2114Mhz?

Edit: wait a minute... You're only at 120%? Brah, I'm running at 330 Watts... That's like 132% relative to you... Unless if you're doing 120% on the partner bios, I don't see how that's possible, it would be 360 Watts O_O.

At stock bios with OC and 120% slider, I ran around 42C to 45C.
Edited by SlimJ87D - 4/4/17 at 10:30pm
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Originally Posted by VanuSovereignty View Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlIkwNloiE8

Thats 70C at 70% RPM BEFORE changing the TIM out for Gelid GC Extreme which dropped my temps 3-4C.

And here's The Witcher 3 at 99% load and a PT induced core clock throttled 1950Mhz or so at 67C with the fan at 78% RPM BEFORE Gelid GC Extreme, now it's 63-65C at 78% RPM. I have been meaning to do an update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74RF5U3-cLg&t

Apparently you haven't read my previous post where I note that removing the metal area dividing PCI-E slot's 1 and 2 has dropped load temps 5C for others who heeded this suggestion.

Yeah having a second look at your case, sure, it may be sealed off, but your GPU's VRM and memory and everything else gets to sit in that oven of an enclosure. Great for Hot Pockets, bad for 300W AIB GPU's. Hopefully it all works out in the end. How about posting some videos of your card sitting in a Heaven loop at 2.0GHz, +400 memory and 120% PT in return? Predicting 75C.

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I said I am under 65C in Titanfall 2 (yes 1:1 ratio). I suppose I can do another video of this. For whatever reason PT in TF2 typically doesn't get much over 100, I mean there are a few spikes to 110,115,120% PT but usually it's at or under 100% and then the matches are only say 5-10 minutes each and then there's 3 minutes or so sitting back in a lobby waiting for another match so it doesn't really get up and stay up. The Witcher 3 it's 99% load for hours with PT at 110%+ so there is a lot for the card to cope with.

Sorry if I came off super negative, if I were you I would consider getting a larger case though. Silvestone Raven is a nice form factor case but it's really meant for reference cooled cards. With summer approaching, you might find yourself look at 80C load temps. That cooler is really inadequate, they haven't changed the design and everyone with the 980 Ti variant complained to no end about the temperatures sitting in the mid 70's, and this was in cases that could breathe. Hell I was seeing 70C in my case with the side-panel fan feeding air directly to it!

I'm not wasting bandwidth uploading a video of heaven looping. Hell its been discussed extensively in this thread that heaven does not stress these cards. Go run 3DMark Firestrike Extreme Stress test and report back with your core clock. lol @ 78% fan speed. Now that is a wind tunnel. And that's coming from a guy with bad hearing. I am locked at 2,000Mhz at 68C in Firestrike extreme stress test.

Edit: I do not wear headphones. I guess if you have noise cancelling headphones then maybe 78% fan speed is justified but its still insane.
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I think the MSI and stock are equal, the scores are a tiny bit off but still in a margin of error.

The ASUS bios just ran hotter and I had a loud coil whine, it was bizarre. Even my speakers had a him that matched the frequency of the coil whine from the card. The ASUS bios caused my card to get hot, it probably had random thermal throttles with my card approaching 51C even though I have a x41 which is quite beefy for a AIO.

All I know is that with a EVGA hybrid kit, or H55, x31, these cards run quite hotter. They need a 280mm radiator to probably​stay under 51C ifnyoubdraw 330 Watts or greater. Or we need a bios mod to modify thermal throttling.

 

When I had run the 1080 strix bios on my old 1080 g1 it developed a terrible coil whine that never went away after that.

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1:1 fan ratio makes for 70% RPM at 70C as indicated in the video, not 78%, it's a substantial difference.

In Titanfall 2 the fan doesn't get over 60-65% RPM (yes, I'm talking about PEAKS of 65C here).

Heaven isn't intensive since when? It's probably the only benchmark that is used for actual stress testing. You can be Firestrike stable but you won't be Heaven stable. Heaven also get's your PT up there.

Heaven hovers around 105% power target for me. firestrike extreme is pretty much maxing out at 117% (max power target on the gaming x - 350Watt TDP)
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Only half as good huh? The hype is real. I'm VERY curious to see how it affects my CPU and GPU temps.

Use the applicator to make as thin a layer as possible right? Or do I just stick with the rice grain method?
i use X method or line method on cpu, but on gpu spread over every bit of it. a "not-TOO-thin" thin spread lol.
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i use X method or line method on cpu, but on gpu spread over every bit of it. a "not-TOO-thin" thin spread lol.

Sounds good! thumb.gif
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TY smile.gif
TY for corroborating. Too bad your FE was a poor overclocker, hopefully your Aorus is a golden sample. Hopefully someone will unlock these vbios so these AIB cards with better thermal management and power delivery can truly shine. But yeah, another 30W or whatever and being able to go higher than +120 on the core and be quieter and good looking in the process for less than what you paid for FE, who could resist?

You got me thinking about trying to return mine, but it does +150 (flirts with 2050 very briefly before 50C) and well, I just can't be bothered with it. It would be a gamble for me actually as some AIB cards are only capable of +120 or so core (I forgot the review, possibly Strix) so yeah, better quit while I'm ahead. It would be nice to have a quieter cooler though, I can hear this thing at 80% over the headphones, particularly during dialogue or when there isn't anything going on in the game. At 70% I really don't notice it.
No problem, bro. If I were you I'd stay pat. I don't mind a little bit of fan noise. If it were coil whine I'd lose my mind, though.

For me it was really that $70 tax, TAX to those fools in the capital pissin me off. So, getting a refund, like you said, who could resist. Got to play on the FE for 3 weeks very early on as well. Already got my shipping refunded b/c fedex was 3 days late and I got another game code out of the deal and traded that to mtbiker for PUBG, so I came out like a champ. Thanks again, broski.

Edit* I find it humorous that I(we) got no problem dropping the initial $700, but that $70 tax coulda been used on upgraded cards, and pisses us all off.
Edited by Slackaveli - 4/4/17 at 11:36pm
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pretty much everybody can get 4.2-4.3 , at anywhere from 1.25-1.35v and these chips can take over 1.4v core and still run cool. I am running (daily) 4.2@1.28v, up from stock which is 3.3 dont let those lower sounding numbers scare you as this dude at 4.2 is on par IPC wise with skylake at 4.5

That's good to know. After the card purchase and a case purchase since the Aorus did actually get shipped and won't fit into my NCASE....It'll be on hold a bit longer. +rep though biggrin.gif.
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ill trade you for my FE that cost me $770 w tax :/

I see you already ordered one tongue.gif. That didn't take long hehe.
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Just an FYI I just got notification the 1080 Ti hybrid kits by EVGA are available. $159 though 😔

http://www.evga.com/products/Product.aspx?pn=400-HY-5388-B1

I saw this, laughed, and was even happier that I bought a AIB Ti. I was originally pretty interested in these for my TXP, but I'll be happy enough to avoid that and sell the TXP.
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At this point physics cards are totally useless. You're talking 1-3 fps difference on average and maybe max a 5fps increase on a heavily physics based game in optimal conditions. Save yourself the electric bill and the heat. tongue.gif

For those not on water, AIB cards are very desirable. FE cards without the OEM fan speed limit (read: 50%) are simply noisy. Also, if staying on air, most AIB coolers keep the cards at very low temps compared to a FE at a fraction of the noise output. Should hold boost a bit better as well.
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So as long as the voltage and core speed is stable throughout the benchmark then I should be ok?

Ensure that you try a few different OC's. For example; if you find +225Mhz on GPU and +550Mhz on VRAM works and is stable, also try it at +175/500 and +125/450 in benchmarks and games you play to see where you actually see better performance. Someone has mentioned it before, but Pascal can scale negatively with an OC that's too high.
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I hate to be the one to say it but I would run FE in that case vs. that AIB card. I've owned that same cooler, my previous card was a 980 Ti MSI 6G Gaming (I invariably swapped that cooler, which was wholly inadequate, i.e. 70C+ load, for an AIO) and although you have it oriented so that it is getting cool air from outside of the case it is expelling heat from the sides of the cooler with nowhere to go but circulate in that poor Silverstone Raven case.

There is really next-to-no performance to be had with that card over FE. Another 20W maybe?

Reference is better than AIB for small form factor cases as they push the heat out of the case. I'm sure you know all of this.

I have a post a ways up where I'm running games at 100% load at 2.0GHz with 67C.

Again, I would NOT go with that card over FE. There is no advantage in a case with proper cooling, and you sir, do not have a spacious, well ventilated case to accommodate said card even if there was a performance advantage.

Here's my Firestrike Extreme, I'm also seeing 67C load at 70% RPM. So yeah, do yourself a favor and keep the FE and sell / return the AIB card.

If you were running a 900D or my case it would be different. But youre not, youre running a case the size of a cereal box.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12060712

There's a very common misconception with cases like these. Getting direct ambient air is perfect for these cards. If it was a non-iCX EVGA card, I could see the concern, but for his scenario, this cooler will perform better and remain quieter than an FE. And let's be honest, 70% fan speed is not quiet by any means on these cards. It's not the end of the world, but simply put--it is loud. If you're seeing bad performance and temps on one of these MSI coolers, your airflow was insufficient.
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to be fair he explains it above. He has done a case mod that gave him 4-5c by improving the gpu's exhaust, he has a MASSIVE side fan giving the card fresh air and cooling the backplate and vrm by shear windpower, and he has done the thermal paste mod for another 4-5c by replacing crap with GeLidd, which is almost as good as thermal grizzly. I get basically the same temps as him and i have a heatsink with thermal paste and an extra fan on top of the backplate and did the thermal grizzley mod.If i cut the metal like he did, i'd probably beat him in temps. But my silicon itself is a dog so I switched, but if i could hold 2.-something Id probably be just as happy as ole vince there.

Even in the NCASE build I have, a cooler like the ACX 3.0 for the 1080 performs wholly better than a blower style cooler. This is both GPUs run with 2 120mm fans directly underneath them. The blower style is effective, but we're all kidding ourselves if we think GPUs haven't progressed to the point that AIBs aren't more effective in any situation (outside of a AIB in a tower with insufficient airflow) than a FE/reference cooler.
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There was a special pre-order through an Aorus Community manager in the FB group. They allocated 10 of each (Aorus Xtreme, Aorus, Gaming G1), you could pre-order directly from Gigabyte by requesting a form from the rep and filling your payment info.

The perks were:
- The card would ship for free on the 3rd of April(1 day before Newegg) with 2 Day Air, mine was ground since I was in the same state got it today biggrin.gif
- Guaranteed availability once you filled the form and they accepted it.
- Freebies that they kept a secret they were a nice surprise. I only paid for the card and got all that!

That's pretty awesome. That mouse is even half-decent if you get one without QC issues.
 
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I dont think folding performance has been discussed yet. Check this out biggrin.gif

1.4 Million PPD drool.gif

Can now leave my GPU folding 24/7. With the founders card I couldn't leave it running 24/7 folding. Was too loud.

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