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Originally Posted by cekim View Post

Still baffled by:
1. it is running quite a bit cooler now with the strix bios
2. precisionX and heaven do not agree on the gpu clock rate.

But, it finished the test this way - no complaints... (it was 2100 all the way through)


You can't use heaven to report your information. You have to use GPU-Z and afterburner graphs.

Heaven doesn't display the right information.
Edited by SlimJ87D - 4/6/17 at 5:28am
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Originally Posted by KedarWolf View Post

About a 4% improvement same clock speeds. biggrin.gif

And here is TimeSpy exact same settings both runs, 2100 core, 6162 memory.

1080 Ti FE



1080 Ti Strix BIOS


You got 10,800 gpu score before the strix bios though.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624521/nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-owners-thread/2760#post_25967140
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Originally Posted by Benny89 View Post

Btw. Those benches are weird...

Here are benches from this site comparing 5775C to 4790k: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1501?vs=1260

Aaaand...both CPUs are basicelly toe to toe...difference is almst none and even sometimes 4790k is better.... 5775C was supposed to be better than 4790k, correct?, so I don't know what to think about it... frown.gif

yeah but check the clockspeeds. The 4790k only manages to go toe to toe with a much higher base clockspeed. Considering most haswell chips seem to top out at 4.5ghz ish. The premise is an overclocked 5775c can deliver performance that is in the same league as a heavily overclocked Skylake/Kaby Lake thus making it a viable, cost effective upgrade to Haswell platforms compared to a full platform upgrade to Kaby/Skylake.
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yeah but check the clockspeeds. The 4790k only manages to go toe to toe with a much higher base clockspeed. Considering most haswell chips seem to top out at 4.5ghz ish. The premise is an overclocked 5775c can deliver performance that is in the same league as a heavily overclocked Skylake/Kaby Lake thus making it a viable, cost effective upgrade to Haswell platforms compared to a full platform upgrade to Kaby/Skylake.

Nah, it still does not make sense.

Look here, here is full articale about Broadwell vs 5,6 and 7 CPUs generation: https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/broadwell_niszczyciel_test_core_i5_5675c_i_core_i7_5775c?page=0,19

And on stock 3,3 it beats stock 7700k, 6700k and 4790k on stocks with Turbo enabled (so 4,4 for 4790l). On 1080p! In almost all new games...

The benchmarks from anandtech.com does not make any sense.... I think they are falsed or at least unreliable.
Edited by Benny89 - 4/6/17 at 4:58am
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About a 4% improvement same clock speeds. biggrin.gif

And here is TimeSpy exact same settings both runs, 2100 core, 6162 memory.

1080 Ti FE



1080 Ti Strix BIOS


You got 10,800 gpu score before the strix bios though.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624521/nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-owners-thread/2760#post_25967140

Yes, I did, different clock speeds but it was an exceptional run with fans and pump screaming at 100% and really low ambient temps with all my windows open in winter.

Higher ambient temps and my driver would crash.

I could only run 24/7 2062 +618 memory, 1.031v without clocks throttling and with regular pump and fan curves, had higher GPU temps and would hit power limit at times as well.

My scores at those clocks would always be well under 10500.

This run is my new 24/7 clocks with regular fan curves and pump at 75%, big improvement.

And the comparison was same fan curves, pump speed, ambient temps and exact same clock speeds both BIOS's.

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Nah, it still does not make sense.

Look here, here is full articale about Broadwell vs 5,6 and 7 CPUs generation: https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/broadwell_niszczyciel_test_core_i5_5675c_i_core_i7_5775c?page=0,19

And on stock 3,3 it beats stock 7700k, 6700k and 4790k on stocks with Turbo enabled (so 4,4 for 4790l). On 1080p! In almost all new games...

The benchmarks from anandtech.com does not make any sense.... I think they are falsed or at least unreliable.

http://techreport.com/review/28751/intel-core-i7-6700k-skylake-processor-reviewed/9

No these results are perfectly legit. As far as websites go, Anandtech is one of the best so I doubt they're false. The reason for the massive performance is that the 5775c has a 128mb L4 cache which basically gives the CPU core the Bandwidth of a HEDT processor coupled with the latency of Kaby Lake (with 3000mhz class RAM).

Remember, the performance of the L4 cache on the 5775c was only recently matched by a brand-new next gen Memory controller on the 7700k but only if coupled with extremely high performance DDR4.
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Originally Posted by KedarWolf View Post

About a 4% improvement same clock speeds. biggrin.gif

And here is TimeSpy exact same settings both runs, 2100 core, 6162 memory.

1080 Ti FE



1080 Ti Strix BIOS


So your FE in stock BIOS was running 2100 to get that result?

I get slightly higher GPU score in timespy and my clocks fluctuate from 2050 -2000 allot for hitting power limit and VRAM stock.
And in heaven i got over 152fps

Like i said compare to people who can hit 2100 on stock FE bios and compare.
Edited by PasK1234Xw - 4/6/17 at 5:37am
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http://techreport.com/review/28751/intel-core-i7-6700k-skylake-processor-reviewed/9

No these results are perfectly legit. As far as websites go, Anandtech is one of the best so I doubt they're false. The reason for the massive performance is that the 5775c has a 128mb L4 cache which basically gives the CPU core the Bandwidth of a HEDT processor coupled with the latency of Kaby Lake (with 3000mhz class RAM).

Remember, the performance of the L4 cache on the 5775c was only recently matched by a brand-new next gen Memory controller on the 7700k but only if coupled with extremely high performance DDR4.

What I meant is that on Anandtech 4790k performs too well compare to 5775C compare to those game benches here: https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/broadwell_niszczyciel_test_core_i5_5675c_i_core_i7_5775c?page=0,19 - where 5775C beats the hell out of 4790k and even 5,0Ghz 7700k.

Anandtech benches shows that 4790k is near performance of 5775C in 1080p, while as we can see in purepc.pl tests that even stock 5775C beats 4.4Ghz 4790k in 1080p Ultra by huge margin.

That is why I think those Anandtech are totally off. Just can't point where and why.
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But what happens when DX12 is utikized to its fullest and CPU overhead goes down? That's one reason I might not move away from my 4790K.
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What I meant is that on Anandtech 4790k performs too well compare to 5775C compare to those game benches here: https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/broadwell_niszczyciel_test_core_i5_5675c_i_core_i7_5775c?page=0,19 - where 5775C beats the hell out of 4790k and even 5,0Ghz 7700k.

Anandtech benches shows that 4790k is near performance of 5775C in 1080p, while as we can see in purepc.pl tests that even stock 5775C beats 4.4Ghz 4790k in 1080p Ultra by huge margin.

That is why I think those Anandtech are totally off. Just can't point where and why.

I re-scanned the PurePC review, I'm 90% sure its memory related. PurePC used terribad 2133mhz DDR4 with atrocious latencies so the advantage of the L4 becomes really pronounced. I'm quite sure with 3000mhz+ sticks you will see the gap between the chips close.
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But what happens when DX12 is utikized to its fullest and CPU overhead goes down? That's one reason I might not move away from my 4790K.

If anything, DX12 will benefit all the chips equally so I doubt it will close the performance difference. Plus, its all down to perspective, if you are close to a boundary like 120fps and you need that slight extra push, the 5775c is a sensible choice as its a drop-in replacement with no other system changes needed. I mean, you can also get the same result with a full platform upgrade to 7700k but that costs a heck of a lot more plus all the effort in reinstalling the mobo + windows.
Edited by Dasboogieman - 4/6/17 at 5:33am
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