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post #4791 of 10663
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Well, it states increased stability over F3 and i now can use 150% Power limit instead of 125%

Just FYI, the max Power Limit of all the Aorus 1080Ti BIOSes are the same. The ones that only have the slider going up to +25% are starting from a 300w base instead of the default 250w limit (same as FE) that some of the other Aorus BIOSes have. They all max out at 375w though, whether it's 250w + 50% or 300w + 25%.
post #4792 of 10663
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Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post

Lookie lookie biggrin.gif 1080TiMSISeaHawk.zip 155k .zip file

Whoever wants to flash and test this bios and see if there's anything special about it.

I need to go to bed frown.gif

Checked this in a hex editor as my 1080Ti hasn't arrived yet. Looks like stock FE power limits - 250w default, 300w max.
A lot of the water cooled / AIO BIOSes are like this and I don't know why. A water cooled card is the most likely to run into power limits since thermals aren't an issue, but the manufacturers keep making them on PCBs with weak VRMs and with low power limits.

On the MSI 1080 (non-Ti) Seahawk X they gave you a LOWER power limit than even the FE! At least with this one they kept it the same.

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/183939/msi-gtx1080-8192-160509
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https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/184559/msi-gtx1080-8192-160607

I guess they really don't have a lot of faith in their hybrid VRM cooling....
post #4793 of 10663
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Originally Posted by ThingyNess View Post

Checked this in a hex editor as my 1080Ti hasn't arrived yet. Looks like stock FE power limits - 250w default, 300w max.
A lot of the water cooled / AIO BIOSes are like this and I don't know why. A water cooled card is the most likely to run into power limits since thermals aren't an issue, but the manufacturers keep making them on PCBs with weak VRMs and with low power limits.

On the MSI 1080 (non-Ti) Seahawk X they gave you a LOWER power limit than even the FE! At least with this one they kept it the same.

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/183939/msi-gtx1080-8192-160509
vs
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/184559/msi-gtx1080-8192-160607

I guess they really don't have a lot of faith in their hybrid VRM cooling....

Yeah, you would think that powering a pump and possibly 2 fans, they would at least give it more power lol.
post #4794 of 10663
Serious question fella's biggrin.gif

I'm currently waiting on my Titan Xp and Evga hybrid cooler. With tax I'm looking at $1461. Although staying on a single card is tempting I'm really digging the new 1080Ti SeaHawk. Being a huge Seahawk fan and living in Seattle helps as well biggrin.gif

I can run a pair in SLI for $1600 out the door. $139 more then the Xp setup. Opinions?
 
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hey I'm about to make a new pc and I haven't been following the 1080ti train so far. So can anyone inform me fast what I would need to buy to get the best performance possible on a triple rad liquid cooled loop ?

Do I need a custom one or are they all locked anyway and may I buy a FE as well for that reason since it overclocks equal ?
post #4796 of 10663
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Serious question fella's biggrin.gif

I'm currently waiting on my Titan Xp and Evga hybrid cooler. With tax I'm looking at $1461. Although staying on a single card is tempting I'm really digging the new 1080Ti SeaHawk. Being a huge Seahawk fan and living in Seattle helps as well biggrin.gif

I can run a pair in SLI for $1600 out the door. $139 more then the Xp setup. Opinions?

SLI is a gamble. You can only hope that DX12 one day pulls through with Multi-GPU support. But by that time rolls around, it's a headache.

Here's some math

Titan Xp = 1080 Ti + 10-12%
SLI 1080 Ti = 1080 Ti + 0%-70%

Personally, I'm so happy I'm not doing SLI 980 Ti anymore. I thought I could pass on the 1080 Ti, but my 1080 Ti OC is running better than my SLI 980 Ti.

I think you should just get a single 1080 Ti and then get the 2080 in 1 year which will be equal to the Titan Xp but probably get some more features. Then sell your 1080 Ti You'll get the most out of your money for performances you would hardly notice a difference and come out on top in 1 year.
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SLI is a gamble. You can only hope that DX12 one day pulls through with Multi-GPU support. But by that time rolls around, it's a headache.

Here's some math

Titan Xp = 1080 Ti + 10-12%
SLI 1080 Ti = 1080 Ti + 0%-70%

Personally, I'm so happy I'm not doing SLI 980 Ti anymore. I thought I could pass on the 1080 Ti, but my 1080 Ti OC is running better than my SLI 980 Ti.

I think you should just get a single 1080 Ti and then get the 2080 in 1 year which will be equal to the Titan Xp but probably get some more features.

I hear you. I'm currently on Lightning 980Ti's now. Even when SLI does work the frames going all over the place is annoying as well. I'm probably going to stick with the single fastest card. Thanks bro thumb.gif
 
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post #4798 of 10663
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hey I'm about to make a new pc and I haven't been following the 1080ti train so far. So can anyone inform me fast what I would need to buy to get the best performance possible on a triple rad liquid cooled loop ?

Do I need a custom one or are they all locked anyway and may I buy a FE as well for that reason since it overclocks equal ?

They all OC around to 2050, just get whatever works best for you. Waterblock? FE then.
post #4799 of 10663
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Originally Posted by fisher6 View Post

It might be correct that the Asus bios doesn't do anything or add extra performance due to higher OC. But for me personally I could never reach 2088 with the FE bios, I tried 2100 yesterday and even got TS and FS to run:

Firestrike at 2100: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19189465
Timespy at 2100: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19189637

Were your scores actually higher though? I doubt it. Check each Bios clock for clock.

Also I suspect as with the numerous posts above, higher clocks don't always to translate to better performance.

My card is on water and shunted, and though I can run the card at 2100 in Firestrike/Heaven, 2138 in Valley, my best performance is actually at 2075.

My situation could be due to me running a 4790k but it's at 5.0ghz so it isnt a slouch.
Edited by KraxKill - 4/11/17 at 9:39am
post #4800 of 10663
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Originally Posted by KraxKill View Post

Were your scores actually higher though? I doubt it. Check each Bios clock for clock.

Also I suspect as with the numerous posts above, higher clocks don't always to translate to better performance.

My card is on water and shunted, and though I can run the card at 2100 in Firestrike/Heaven, 2138 in Valley, my best performance is actually at 2075.

My situation could be due to me running a 4790k but it's at 5.0ghz so it isnt a slouch.

Also, don't forget to all those that are benchmarking. Not all tests/loads are power limited. The higher the resolution/complexity, the more likely it will be that the card is TDP limited.
In addition, the extra TDP headroom doesn't help your average FPS as much as you might think. What it does help a lot is the minimum FPS. Even in heaven, there's only like 5% of the benchmark that's really intensive, the rest of it won't power limit even with a 300w cap anyway.

Try running The Witcher 3 in 5k res with everything maxed, and watch your minimum FPS through a benchmark run.

Switching P-states does have a slight latency to it and can cause a bit more irregularity in frame times if they are bouncing around due to coming up against the TDP limiter.

Being able to stay in the absolute top P-state and max clocks throughout an entire benchmark run improves the perceived smoothness from my experience as well, even if it might only translate to a .1 difference in the average FPS at the end of the run.
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