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The ASUS BIOS does give you an extra 30 watts.

Sorry, but calculations I read in a previous post here didn't look right.

A '1080 TI FE' has a power limit of 250 watts. (with power slider in your O/C'ing app at the default 100%)
Change that slider to the maximum 120% and you have 300 watts. (1.2 multiplied by 250 = 300)



The ASUS BIOS has a default power limit of 275 watts (with power slider in your O/C'ing app at the default 100%)

Change the slider to the maximum 120% with the ASUS BIOS installed and you have 330w. (1.2 multiplied by 275 = 330)
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/11/17 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by nrpeyton View Post

The ASUS BIOS does give you an extra 30 watts.

Sorry, but your calculations are wrong.

An 1080 TI FE has a power limit of 250 watts. (with power slider in your O/C'ing app at the default 100%)
Change that slider to the maximum 120% and you have 300 watts. (1.2 multiplied by 250 = 300)

The ASUS BIOS has a power limit of 275 watts (with power slider in your O/C'ing app at the default 100%)
Change the slider to the maximum 120% with the ASUS BIOS installed and you have 330w. (1.2 multiplied by 275 = 330)

So you're telling me that my PSU, which measures watts, is wrong? Yeah, no thanks.

Running furmark
Stock Bios at 120%, which is it's max, 410 Watt to system

ASUS Bios at 110%, which is its max, 410 Watts to system.

What your'e saying is 410 =/= 410...
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So you're telling me that my PSU, which measures watts, is wrong? Yeah, no thanks.

Running furmark
Stock Bios at 120%, which is it's max, 410 Watt to system

ASUS Bios at 110%, which is its max, 410 Watts to system.

What your'e saying is 410 =/= 410...

 

410 = 400 duh, you forgot to magically subtract 10.

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So you're telling me that my PSU, which measures watts, is wrong? Yeah, no thanks.

Running furmark
Stock Bios at 120%, which is it's max, 410 Watt to system

ASUS Bios at 110%, which is its max, 410 Watts to system.

What your'e saying is 410 =/= 410...

If you are cross-flashing a BIOS from another card, the numbers won't report correctly. The card doesn't know what is really drawing. The VRM and phase switching and everything is all different.

If you owned the ASUS card, you'd see the extra 30 watts.

I'm not recommending anyone flash their card, with a BIOS not designed for that card.
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/11/17 at 10:18am
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So you're telling me that my PSU, which measures watts, is wrong? Yeah, no thanks.

Running furmark
Stock Bios at 120%, which is it's max, 410 Watt to system

ASUS Bios at 110%, which is its max, 410 Watts to system.

What your'e saying is 410 =/= 410...

If you are cross-flashing a BIOS from another card, the numbers won't report correctly. The card doesn't know what is really drawing. The VRM and phase switching and everything is all different.

You're not understanding. When you use the ASUS bios, the power usage NEVER GOES ABOVE 110%, it actually floats rarely goes above 108%.

I am not using software to read power. I am using hardware to read wattage from the wall.
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It might be correct that the Asus bios doesn't do anything or add extra performance due to higher OC. But for me personally I could never reach 2088 with the FE bios, I tried 2100 yesterday and even got TS and FS to run:

Firestrike at 2100: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19189465
Timespy at 2100: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19189637

Those arent quite 2100Mhz results -

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12264485

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1531250

@SlimJ87D - I rand the same test as yours last night, using furmark and for me weirdly the clocks weren't crossing 1800Mhz no matter what. (With either BIOS) In 3DMark however they go up like normal.

Tops power draw difference i noticed was about 10W higher on the ASUS BIOS. But my score ARE higher with the ASUS BIOS since i dont throttle as often, and the clocks are much more stable under max TDP loads, the FE BIOS under the same loads send the clocks to break dancing.

However the benefits will be visible only with cards that can NOT go over 2050Mhz.
Edited by bloodhawk - 4/11/17 at 10:24am
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If you are cross-flashing a BIOS from another card, the numbers won't report correctly. The card doesn't know what is really drawing. The VRM and phase switching and everything is all different.

If you owned the ASUS card, you'd see the extra 30 watts.

I'm not recommending anyone flash their card, with a BIOS not designed for that card.

 

What the cards report has nothing to do with it... he is reading the usage straight from the PSU, the psu doesn't care about what the heck it's plugged into, power usage is power usage.

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Those are quite 2100Mhz results -

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12264485

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1531250

@SlimJ87D - I rand the same test as yours last night, using furmark and for me weirdly the clocks weren't crossing 1800Mhz no matter what. (With either BIOS) In 3DMark however they go up like normal.

Tops power draw difference i noticed was about 10W higher on the ASUS BIOS. But my score ARE higher with the ASUS BIOS since i dont throttle as often, and the clocks are much more stable under max TDP loads, the FE BIOS under the same loads send the clocks to break dancing.

The FE will occasionally run past it's maximum power draw, we have seen it plenty of times. Sometimes you can go up to 125%. That's similar to when the ASUS bios goes up to 112%.

Here you go, I just played a bit of witcher to prove my point. Hitting 124%



This is the stock bios hitting 310 Watts
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You're not understanding. When you use the ASUS bios, the power usage NEVER GOES ABOVE 110%, it actually floats rarely goes above 108%.

I am not using software to read power. I am using hardware to read wattage from the wall.

When I cross flashed my EVGA 1080 Classified with the ASUS T4, STRIX BIOS (1080). (which has no power or temp limits at all -- they are completely removed).

My card would actually draw less power from the wall than it did before. (And FPS would also go down).

This is due to VRM's being different.

I also have a watt meter that plugs into the wall and gives me full system draw.

However if I used the ASUS BIOS, in a compatible ASUS card -- I would indeed of had no power or temp limits.

The same applies to you.

The ASUS BIOS gives ASUS card owners an extra 30 watts. But it won't give everyone who cross-flashes an extra 30 watts. It depends on the differences on the VRM (cards power delivery & monitoring system).
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