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Originally Posted by Darkwizzie View Post

Does that extra power from the shunt mod really matter? What are we talking here, 25mhz on top from 150% power draw?


That PSU that can measure power draw sounds sweet, sort of want one.

Before I did the shunt mod, I was throttling down to 1950 in super heavy load (Overwatch uncapped frames, FS Extreme) with the GPU barely boosting above the 1V bin. Now I can hold 2100 steady in all load scenarios.

Your mileage will vary based on silicon leakiness.

Not that I need it now that I'm on a Stellaris binge...
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Originally Posted by Dasboogieman View Post

Dat new GPU smell.

1080ti Aorus Generic model just came in. Completely mediocre overclocks in all respects.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/details/7hawa


seems to cap out at 2037mhz with 1.093V. Get soft crashing in FFXIV with 2050mhz. But meh, dun't really mind.

Build quality is similar but not the same as the extreme version. The Copper back block is less chunky, the Aorus LED is smaller on the backplate and no backplate thermal pads for the mosfets.

TDP is capped to 375W if you slide the AB bar to max. Also perma VREL regardless of what I do, this thing is screaming for volt mods.

Also my 7700k is freshly delidded, 5.0 Ghz is now 1.35v stable (-2 AVX offset) with load temps <70 (down from total thermal shutdown lol).
i feel like you added volts. I am right.

Protip- DON'T.

Also, 1631 core is the most anyone should expect out of a non-extreme Aorus. The bin over there (GPU Gauntlet), so, if a gpu were passing at 1633 (plus whatever there headroom allowance dictates in gauntlet policies), it would be an Extreme. I got very lucky in my eyes to hold 1646 on non extreme, and I couldnt get close to that adding volts. Just Lock the clock at 2050 at 1.05v and test. then try 2032.5, then 2020. You are better off than you realize I think.
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For mine, I use the DP that sits just above the DVI port. My Aorus is using the VR mode VBIOS by default so I flashed only that (I tested by plugging in a DVI and Windows considered it a brand new GPU being installed).

Seems good though, I'm getting the full fat 375W Power limit, the VREL is completely gone, and at 1.093V I'm boosting to 2063mhz stable so far on FFXIV.

Actually on that note, the FFXIV benchmark seems like a good stability test since it soft-crashes (CTD) upon the slightest instability.
agreed. Plus, It's the prettiest Benchmark to watch ~!
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For mine, I use the DP that sits just above the DVI port. My Aorus is using the VR mode VBIOS by default so I flashed only that (I tested by plugging in a DVI and Windows considered it a brand new GPU being installed).

Seems good though, I'm getting the full fat 375W Power limit, the VREL is completely gone, and at 1.093V I'm boosting to 2063mhz stable so far on FFXIV.

Actually on that note, the FFXIV benchmark seems like a good stability test since it soft-crashes (CTD) upon the slightest instability.
so, if one were to use the HDMI that is supposed to shut off when using DVI, that's putting it on the other bios, right?
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Originally Posted by Darkwizzie View Post

Does that extra power from the shunt mod really matter? What are we talking here, 25mhz on top from 150% power draw?


That PSU that can measure power draw sounds sweet, sort of want one.

Before I did the shunt mod, I was throttling down to 1950 in super heavy load (Overwatch uncapped frames, FS Extreme) with the GPU barely boosting above the 1V bin. Now I can hold 2100 steady in all load scenarios.

Your mileage will vary based on silicon leakiness.

Not that I need it now that I'm on a Stellaris binge...

ll this benching i've been doing is pretty much a moot point for myself.

I use a 4K G-Sync screen and have the frame rate capped at 59 FPS all the games I play so my clocks really don't max out anyways. redface.gif
    
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it's your NVIDIA control panel settings, (ive been meaning to tell you this- i got you, mane!!) . One is shader cache, one is Anio filtering, ... there are more. Just set EVERYTHING to default or "application controlled". For me I kept getting hung on Timespy and getting a launch error b/c I usually run 16x Anio filter from NCP overiding, and Timespy hates that.
just sell your Tis, why would she care then?


I only have a 1080 at the moment which is already overkill for what I play. sad-smiley-002.gif
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it's your NVIDIA control panel settings, (ive been meaning to tell you this- i got you, mane!!) . One is shader cache, one is Anio filtering, ... there are more. Just set EVERYTHING to default or "application controlled". For me I kept getting hung on Timespy and getting a launch error b/c I usually run 16x Anio filter from NCP overiding, and Timespy hates that.
just sell your Tis, why would she care then?

Thank, I'll give it a try but I think my problem is RSS related since I can run it with it closed. But I just disabled something that has been stopping other issues, custom direct 3d. Will try it tonight.
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Originally Posted by nrpeyton View Post

The 'certificates bypassed version' of nvflash already exists, and its even been updated to be pascal compatible.

The problem is deciphering the BIOS files. (figuring out what to edit).

I could use a hex-editor to edit my BIOS file right now, and I have the tools to successfully flash it to my 1080.

The problem, is any edit I done.. would be a "shot in the dark".

Shows how much I know smile.gif. I thought that was the sticking point at this moment.

See this post: http://www.overclock.net/t/1621789/pascal-bios-editor-any-news/20#post_25955570
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Checked this in a hex editor as my 1080Ti hasn't arrived yet. Looks like stock FE power limits - 250w default, 300w max.
A lot of the water cooled / AIO BIOSes are like this and I don't know why. A water cooled card is the most likely to run into power limits since thermals aren't an issue, but the manufacturers keep making them on PCBs with weak VRMs and with low power limits.

On the MSI 1080 (non-Ti) Seahawk X they gave you a LOWER power limit than even the FE! At least with this one they kept it the same.

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/183939/msi-gtx1080-8192-160509
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https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/184559/msi-gtx1080-8192-160607

I guess they really don't have a lot of faith in their hybrid VRM cooling....
the only one(s) which breaks this trend was the EVGA 1080 hybrid FTW (maybe the gigabyte extreme waterforce, too, not sure but i think so), all the others are stock pcb/power limit. Best perf with an AIO is still gonna be an Aorus Extreme with an AIO kit or eventually the ZOtac highest end w/ a AIO (obviously fully underwater is best).
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Checked this in a hex editor as my 1080Ti hasn't arrived yet. Looks like stock FE power limits - 250w default, 300w max.
A lot of the water cooled / AIO BIOSes are like this and I don't know why. A water cooled card is the most likely to run into power limits since thermals aren't an issue, but the manufacturers keep making them on PCBs with weak VRMs and with low power limits.

On the MSI 1080 (non-Ti) Seahawk X they gave you a LOWER power limit than even the FE! At least with this one they kept it the same.

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/183939/msi-gtx1080-8192-160509
vs
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/184559/msi-gtx1080-8192-160607

I guess they really don't have a lot of faith in their hybrid VRM cooling....
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Just a heads up MSI 1080Ti seahawk X in stock at newegg

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137126

Already out of stock ?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137126&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-VigLink-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6146846&SID=j1dx7i127h000kb500053
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Also, don't forget to all those that are benchmarking. Not all tests/loads are power limited. The higher the resolution/complexity, the more likely it will be that the card is TDP limited.
In addition, the extra TDP headroom doesn't help your average FPS as much as you might think. What it does help a lot is the minimum FPS. Even in heaven, there's only like 5% of the benchmark that's really intensive, the rest of it won't power limit even with a 300w cap anyway.

Try running The Witcher 3 in 5k res with everything maxed, and watch your minimum FPS through a benchmark run.

Switching P-states does have a slight latency to it and can cause a bit more irregularity in frame times if they are bouncing around due to coming up against the TDP limiter.

Being able to stay in the absolute top P-state and max clocks throughout an entire benchmark run improves the perceived smoothness from my experience as well, even if it might only translate to a .1 difference in the average FPS at the end of the run.
yeah, since I got the Aorus and it's 300w base, i never power throttle in Heaven at 103% power and up. It just won't go over 300w (heaven) even maxed. But FFXIV, now THAT is a power hungry benchmark (and free, and BEAUTIFUL), i did the command prompt while running it (but the pic saved in a weird place i think b/c now i can't find it :/) , but I was hitting 360w (with still no power throttling).
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