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i've never ran a loop but i can still answer, one would be fine, especially if you add a chiller. It would require a second one perhaps if you go sli.
considering you can sell your 4790k for ~$300+ it's a ~$50 upgrade.That is the deal of a lifetime as you'll have a whole platform's worth of performance upgrade for that small money. Short answer, yes it still outperforms in highs, lows, and average frames in 4k. The 134mb combined L3+L4 cache vs 8mb cache..... That's a roflstomp. And even in 1440p/4k you'll gain ~20% fps in many titles.

Can you link benchmarks showing 20%FPS gain?
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Nope . Intel has a ban on those apparently. I can link the owner's club where 90% of us came from 4690k/4790k and there is a 100% approval rating for this cpu. I've read the entire thread and every single one of us are super super happy. Testimonials and what-not. Unfortunitely you will NEVER see benches unless they come from very far flung 3rd world places , and I suspect that is part of Intel's blackballing of this cpu. There just aren't any benches (or super few and all have the 5775c @ 3.3ghz when all of us can hit 4.2-4.4ghz), but 1080p is the very best way to bench cpu anyway . I understand you want to know if it's better at that rez, and im telling you NONE of us were gaming at 1080p and we all see vast improvements across the board, including HUGE HUGE gains in games, especially in my case when I'm at 144hz 1440p, and power consumption is way down. these are 14nm cpus. They sip power. Just go read 10 or 20 pages here... http://www.overclock.net/t/1583537/intel-broadwell-c-ownership-club/720#post_26005440

it's simple math. ipc improvement, die shrink, single core and physics scores are up, and 143MB vs 8mb cache....... As the articles I linked are titled "Broadwell Destroyer" and they call it "The Gaming Behemoth." I couldn't have said it any better. It beats 7700k, so of course it roflstomps 4790k, even the golden 5.0ghz ones like many of us sold/gifted when we jumped on The Gaming Behemoth. I'm pretty much all gamer so for me I wouldnt trade it for a 7700k. Nope.
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Just got my Asus 1080Ti Strix. 69 highest temp with 1939 boost clock without even touching anything. Fans are loud on 100% but they're nearly silent when the card is under heavy stress. So far excited so much with this card!
    
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i've never ran a loop but i can still answer, one would be fine, especially if you add a chiller. It would require a second one perhaps if you go sli.
considering you can sell your 4790k for ~$300+ it's a ~$50 upgrade.That is the deal of a lifetime as you'll have a whole platform's worth of performance upgrade for that small money. Short answer, yes it still outperforms in highs, lows, and average frames in 4k. The 134mb combined L3+L4 cache vs 8mb cache..... That's a roflstomp. And even in 1440p/4k you'll gain ~20% fps in many titles.

PSA- If you are on z97, the very very very best upgrade you can do in perf per dollar is a drop-in cpu upgrade to Broadwell-C. It's literally a no-brainer, deal of a lifetime. THAT'S why you've never heard about it tbh, Intel tried very hard to kill this thing off.

Resale value for the 4790K is $250 =/, so it'd cost $100 extra.
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Nope . Intel has a ban on those apparently. I can link the owner's club where 90% of us came from 4690k/4790k and there is a 100% approval rating for this cpu. I've read the entire thread and every single one of us are super super happy. Testimonials and what-not. Unfortunitely you will NEVER see benches unless they come from very far flung 3rd world places , and I suspect that is part of Intel's blackballing of this cpu. There just aren't any benches (or super few and all have the 5775c @ 3.3ghz when all of us can hit 4.2-4.4ghz), but 1080p is the very best way to bench cpu anyway . I understand you want to know if it's better at that rez, and im telling you NONE of us were gaming at 1080p and we all see vast improvements across the board, including HUGE HUGE gains in games, especially in my case when I'm at 144hz 1440p, and power consumption is way down. these are 14nm cpus. They sip power. Just go read 10 or 20 pages here... http://www.overclock.net/t/1583537/intel-broadwell-c-ownership-club/720#post_26005440

it's simple math. ipc improvement, die shrink, single core and physics scores are up, and 143MB vs 8mb cache.......

Theres no way the 5775c gains 20%fps @ 1440p/4k over a 4790k. The benchmark you showed before showed a 18% gain and that was at 1080p. That gain will diminish at higher res. Theres no doubt a 5775c is better but not 20% better.
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Theres no way the 5775c gains 20%fps @ 1440p/4k over a 4790k. The benchmark you showed before showed a 18% gain and that was at 1080p. That gain will diminish at higher res. Theres no doubt a 5775c is better but not 20% better.
But it DOESN'T diminish at higher rez. In fact it can become even more pronounced than that in heavy cpu titles. The gains are because of the ENORMOUS CACHE DELTA of 126MB , that over 1500% more cache, bro. You are just wrong, but iDC, Im good. and 18.7% is the same thing as ~20%, btw.

Regardless of what % it wins by, it will NEVER lose to a 4790k in any title and it will ALWAYS beat it by at least some measurable amount. For $50.
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But it DOESN'T diminish at higher rez. In fact it can become even more pronounced than that in heavy cpu titles. The gains are because of the ENORMOUS CACHE DELTA of 126MB , that over 1000% more cache, bro. You are just wrong, but iDC, Im good. and 18.7% is the same thing as ~20%, btw.

At high res you are being limited by the GPU and not CPU. No matter how good your CPU is, your GPU is still only pushing a certain amount of frames.....
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At high res you are being limited by the GPU and not CPU. No matter how good your CPU is, your GPU is still only pushing a certain amount of frames.....
and those frames come out faster with more draw calls. And they have WAY more consistency. And way better minimums. And way more of a smooth gameplay experience. And some games are still cpu limited at higher rez. I feel like you are trying to educate me when you dont even know what you are talking about. You are using pre-concieved notions about cpu's that do not apply to this cpu b/c of it's differences in archetecture, namely and mostly it's cache. Do you know what a cache does? Go do some googling. Im gonna pass this argument off to the others that will surely come and tell you the same thing I am. You can continue to save that one dinner's out worth of money and continue to burn a crap load more power than us and have a sub-par gaming experience in comparison to us. Cheers, enjoy that.
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Resale value for the 4790K is $250 =/, so it'd cost $100 extra.
except that 99% of folks don't realize that the 4790k isn't the top upgrade path on a z97 board. All that ignorance helps with reselling the 4790k. Although it should be only worth $250, the five of us in this thread who have done it all got more than that. One guy got his 5775c for free (Palote99). One paid $30. And @Benny89 paid $50.
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Just sell your 4790k. I sold mine, added 50$ and I upgrade to 5.0Ghz 7700k level of performance. For 50 bucks.
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You will notice a BIG improve ......


Waiting 4 your comments tomorrow......

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Y, I am little mad about it, but before second half of 2016 I didn't really need anything more than 4790k so glad I found this baby.

But still mad because I could have enjoyed it sooo much faster. That thing was one of the biggest scams Intel made.

I mean really this is LAST revolutionally CPU from Intel in last 5 years.


This only proves how good could CPUs be, but Intel prefer to milk cows. Can't really blame them though.. mad.gif
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In general the 7700k is sligthly ahead, but not by much:


In some games the EDRAM does indeed its job and puts the 5775c as the best cpu in the world:




It also puts it ahead of the 7700k in others:




And when overclock, the 5775c manages to beat a 5GHz 7700k in some other games:






#BESTCPUINTHEWORLD
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From 1950-2038Mhz i barely even notice any deference in fps (maybe 5fps at mos?) when playing games like DOTA2 and CSGO. Beyond 2000Mhz supposedly if users can maintain <45C, the fps difference will be at MOST 2-5fps.
But yet again, those sweet sweet, epeen points man.

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agreed. I've settled in at 2050@ 1.04v for long gaming sessions.

I think that's going to be the sweet spot for every one thumb.gif

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Point taken, and I've settled for an easy OC in a lower voltage bin, but the higher core speeds definitely have an impact on benchmark scores. It's what those applications are designed to show, and they show it clearly.

Im not sure why you'd question people pushing the most out of their cards on an overclocking forum. Also, warnings about 'burning cards' seems like hyperbole when these things are locked down to pretty safe voltages. If nothing else it's also kinda interesting.


Just people are like look at my score with a quad core
to be competitive you going to need a 6950X then benching is going to about the size of your wallet not your ability to OC
as to compare benches as we all do you have to look at the graphics score alone the Physics test is more of a money spinner for Intel/AMD trying to convince you need the latest CPU with the most cores.
I am guilty when browsing bench results I always look at the top scores.

in saying That I encourage you to bench just look at the hours I spent doesn't feel like 46hours smile.gif


if I had to look at my fire strike results with ,my GTX 770 SLI then I would be 3rd in the world with only a quad core with only 6 and 10 core CPUs beating me and FPS with a few frames of each other
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/3947052/fs/9368009/fs/2429341
now that score was valid till new hardware came out that required even old score to run the latest system info.


actually folding that fried the cards with the maximum stable OC with keeping GPU under 60°C 3 weeks of 24/7 folding seemed a good idea at the time instead of turning on the heater.
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