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Another Zotac FE person O_O... You're the first person I have met with my card lol

Hey ive been here all along lol
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@KedarWolf

What does your "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe" -q -d power show?

Attached GPUs : 2
GPU 0000:01:00.0
Power Readings
Power Management : Supported
Power Draw : 17.41 W
Power Limit : 330.00 W
Default Power Limit : 275.00 W
Enforced Power Limit : 330.00 W
Min Power Limit : 125.00 W
Max Power Limit : 330.00 W
Power Samples
Duration : 4.07 sec
Number of Samples : 119
Max : 18.47 W
Min : 17.41 W
Avg : 17.66 W
    
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Hey ive been here all along lol

Oh... You don't count... for obvious reasons biggrin.gif

Lol, jk. Awesome. I thought I was the only one that got stuck with Zotac. Honestly, I got a good freaking bin from them. And if rumors are true, EVGA bins their FE's so they can stick their chips onto their SC versions. Of course, rumors are rumors.
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Asus BIOS, 2088 core at 1.062v, 6147 memory,only thing I changed in Nvidia Control Panel was Single Display Performace Mode and Power Mode to Performance. smile.gif It's over a 300 point jump in my stock FE BIOS at 1.062v 2062, memory was 6112 I think.


The reason why your ASUS bios is doing bad is because it runs a gimped 2088 Mhz. It thinks it has extra power to run at 2088 Mhz at 1.062V when it does not.

The stock bios reports the correct maximum power draw, therefore it will change voltages to another clock and optimize 120% power for that clock and voltage and not have a gimp run. That run will run at its fullest potential since it has the power to do so.

2050 Mhz @lower voltage+Max power draw > 2088 Mhz @ higher voltages + Gimped power draw

What you need to do with your stock bios is actually adjust the core clocks higher at 1.000V, 1.020V, 1.032V and 1.040V. That way when the card down volts to optimize power and core, you'll be at a higher clock at those lower cores. ASUS Bios will not do this correctly because it thinks it has more power to play with and also, it won't adjust as low of a voltage because again it thinks it has more power.

Otherwise, you can keep using the ASUS bios that thinks it has 350 Watts and it'll stay at a gimped 2088 to 2075 Mhz with no power to actually runs those cores at those volts. .
Edited by SlimJ87D - 4/11/17 at 10:28pm
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Asus BIOS, 2088 core at 1.062v, 6147 memory,only thing I changed in Nvidia Control Panel was Single Display Performace Mode and Power Mode to Performance. smile.gif It's over a 300 point jump in my stock FE BIOS at 1.062v 2062, memory was 6112 I think.


The reason why your ASUS bios is doing bad is because it runs a gimped 2088 Mhz. It thinks it has extra power to run at 2088 Mhz at 1.062V when it does not.

The stock bios reports the correct maximum power draw, therefore it will change voltages to another clock and optimize 120% power for that clock and voltage and not have a gimp run. That run will run at its fullest potential since it has the power to do so.

2050 Mhz @lower voltage+Max power draw > 2088 Mhz @ higher voltages + Gimped power draw

What you need to do with your stock bios is actually adjust the core clocks higher at 1.000V, 1.020V, 1.032V and 1.040V. That way when the card down volts to optimize power and core, you'll be at a higher clock at those lower cores. ASUS Bios will not do this correctly because it thinks it has more power to play with.

Otherwise, you can keep using the ASUS bios that thinks it has 350 Watts and it'll stay at a gimped 2088 to 2075 Mhz with no power to actually runs those cores at those volts. .

I don't take any stock in your made up theories. Did you even run the nvidia command with furmark running to test power draw like someone said to do or you did and the results were contrary to what you're claiming so you won't post them.

This is 4K Optimized at Asus BIOS 2088 1.075v. 6142 memory.



This is stock BIOS 2062 1.031v 6142 memory.



And all my games I run 4K so I'm definitely going with the Asus BIOS. smile.gif
    
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Another Zotac FE person O_O... You're the first person I have met with my card lol

Count me in lol. I went the FE way since I'm gonna slap a waterblock on it anyway.
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So i have been able to read the BIOS using my programmer, but i didnt flash the modded BIOS just yet. The first thing i observed about the dump i made was that its 512KB instead of the 257 KB BIOS's that we are flashing. Going to flash and stuff tomorrow after work.
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I don't take any stock in your made up theories. Did you even run the nvidia command with furmark running to test power draw like someone said to do or you did and the results were contrary to what you're claiming so you won't post them.

This is 4K Optimized at Asus BIOS 2088 1.075v. 6142 memory.



This is stock BIOS 2062 1.031v 6142 memory.



And all my games I run 4K so I'm definitely going with the Asus BIOS. smile.gif

If you folks really want to see some power-throttling insanity, try running it in 'custom' mode with 8k resolution, but with the '4k optimized' shaders.

On my 1070 with a 200w power limit (up from 150w default, so 33% higher!) I get no throttling at all in 8k res with the 8k shaders, but it hits that power limit hard with the '4k optimized' shaders.

It might not be obvious, but the '4k optimized' shaders are less complex than the '8k optimized' shaders, and both of those are less complex than the Medium or Extreme ones.

On 4k Extreme on my 1070, it only gets like 2.5fps, haha. Even if this benchmark supported SLI (which it doesn't for now), 4-way SLI Titan Xp would still be a slideshow at 4k Extreme.
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So i have been able to read the BIOS using my programmer, but i didnt flash the modded BIOS just yet. The first thing i observed about the dump i made was that its 512KB instead of the 257 KB BIOS's that we are flashing. Going to flash and stuff tomorrow after work.

There's likely a lot of zero-padding at the end, if memory serves.
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There's likely a lot of zero-padding at the end, if memory serves.

Probably, but with NVIDIA's Flacon checks and stuff, i really dont want to run with that. Since they have another check on the die level.
This dump is with the ASUS Strix BIOS flashed. Had to block the ground pin to avoid running into overcurrent protection. AND use the 1.8V adapter on top of that.

Here is the dump - https://www.sendspace.com/file/fyqe5u
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