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Quick question, I'm about to get me a 1080Ti moving on from my current 780 Classy. Is there any reason not to get a FE? Seeing how Maxwell and Pascal doesn't seem to scale with voltage, it just seems like a waste of money to get a custom pcb card with extra power phases that seems to do more or less nothing. Would there be any benefits for me to hold on for something like a classy? I'm gonna put my new one under water as well and play around with custom bioses. Seems like I'm only paying for a custom fan solution and rgb lightning I won't use anyways or am I missing something here? Thanks.
    
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Well i hope they get it right for the kingpin 1080ti.

Exactly my thinking :-)

And if it grows at hwbot.org then we'll start to see more flexibility with BIOS tweaks / tools for Pascal TI. (hopefully)

TI is still soooo new.... even two weeks ago the TI was still in/out of stock on Nvidia website. So there's plenty time.

I've been in a queue with EVGA since launch for my TI.. and it only shipped today. (arriving Thursday from Germany to the U.K)
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/24/17 at 4:21pm
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Quick question, I'm about to get me a 1080Ti moving on from my current 780 Classy. Is there any reason not to get a FE? Seeing how Maxwell and Pascal doesn't seem to scale with voltage, it just seems like a waste of money to get a custom pcb card with extra power phases that seems to do more or less nothing. Would there be any benefits for me to hold on for something like a classy? I'm gonna put my new one under water as well and play around with custom bioses. Seems like I'm only paying for a custom fan solution and rgb lightning I won't use anyways or am I missing something here? Thanks.

-Bigger VRM = better heat dissipation (less heat spilling over from VRM onto core + memory = better overclocking)
The three two GDDR5X memory chips closest to the VRM side of the card can get up to 25c hotter than the chips on the I/O side. (On a card with a smaller PCB I.E. Founders Edition that number is going to be even greater).

-Bigger PCB = see above x 2

-Ability to take cards voltages using multi-meter from 'probe points'

-Voltage health LED's for core, mem + PCI-E

-No need to shut mod.

-According to KPE website the new epower is going to have evbot 'built in'. <--my 1080 classy had evbot plug port so I imagine 'KPE 1080 TI' will have it.

-Better compatibility if you want to experiment/bench with Extreme Cooling

-Easier to remove 'stock' heatsink/fan and go Water cooling. (EVGA also allows water-cooling. You can remove heatsink and install water-block and they will still honour warranty as long as you return card in original condition).

-Higher Power Target = Less power throttling. (we know for sure these cards do power throttle I see it on this thread every day).

-Sexier card.

-I think EVGA/Kingpin also have a nice surprise for us in-store with TI. As 1080 Classy owners got frustrated with and all the lockdowns. (it was the general consensus and well-known at the forums).

If you can get temps down below 25c voltage could still have a place up to about 1.25v (150 milli volts more than usual limit). (Silicon Lottery dependant of course).
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/24/17 at 4:52pm
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Updated OP and BIOS flashing thread with Palit BIOS results. smile.gif
    
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Updated OP and BIOS flashing thread with Palit BIOS results. smile.gif

Isn't that a little too quick? People are reporting issues with it right now.
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Updated OP and BIOS flashing thread with Palit BIOS results. smile.gif

Isn't that a little too quick? People are reporting issues with it right now.

Saw one person say it wasn't working and one who never really tested it or posted results.

And if they don't reboot, reinstall drivers and reboot one last time, going to have issues.

Why are you always so contrary. frown.gif
    
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Saw one person say it wasn't working and one who never really tested it or posted results.

And if they don't reboot, reinstall drivers and reboot one last time, going to have issues.

Why are you always so contrary. frown.gif

I'm not trying to be contrary. If I can explain my background, I publish science papers so it's in my profession to try and present findings once I've gathered and sampled data. I'm more afraid of reporting misinformation than anything. We maintain an op together and it can affect an entire user base if we don't make sure something works for everyone. Or at least write a disclaimer that it works for some but not for others.

But so far I actu believe this might be it, if someone is hitting 116%, this bios maximum power draw, then that should be 350 watts
Edited by SlimJ87D - 4/24/17 at 4:59pm
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Originally Posted by nrpeyton View Post

-Bigger VRM = better heat dissipation (less heat spilling over from VRM onto core + memory = better overclocking)
The three two GDDR5X memory chips closest to the VRM side of the card can get up to 25c hotter than the chips on the I/O side. (On a card with a smaller PCB I.E. Founders Edition that number is going to be even greater).

-Bigger PCB = see above x 2

-Ability to take cards voltages using multi-meter from 'probe points'

-According to KPE website the new epower is going to have evbot 'built in'. <--my 1080 classy had evbot plug port so I imagine 'KPE 1080 TI' will have it.

-Better compatibility if you want to go Extreme Cooling

-Easier to remove 'stock' heatsink/fan and go Water cooling. (EVGA also allows water-cooling. You can remove heatsink and install water-block and they will still honour warranty as long as you return card in original condition).

-Higher Power Target = Less power throttling. (we know for sure these cards do power throttle I see it on this thread every day).

-Sexier card.

-I think EVGA/Kingpin also have a nice surprise for us in-store with TI. As 1080 Classy owners got frustrated with and all the lockdowns. (it was the general consensus and well-known at the forums).

-If you can get temps down below 25c voltage still has a place up to about 1.25v (150 milli volts more than usual limit).

Thank you for your reply! Yeah, I was considering the VRM cooling to be better but I had no idea that the difference in cooling could be that much of a difference! I'm not looking to do any sort of more extreme oc, just fiddle around with different bios settings and see what I can push to be stable for games. I have no interest of pushing good benchmark runs smile.gif I have no idea what epower is and have never heard of it but evbot seems like something i'd not really need if I'm just pushing my card for stable gamin oc, right? kpe is kingpin edition for 1080ti? sorry if that seems like a dumb question, I've been out of the loop for quite a while.

I'm fully aware of EVGA's policys regarding removing heatsink and fans, that's one of the reasons I went with EVGA's classy smile.gif However I do believe there's a few more manufacturers now offering the same kind of warranty. Back when my card was the hottest **** around I think they where the only ones at the time. There's nothing wrong with a sexy card but I prefer performance over looks tbh smile.gif

I have a hard time seeing I'd get below 25c since that's like 4-5c hotter than my ambient temp and my cpu tends to run pretty hot since it's a bad chip and requires a lot of voltage (i never seem to be able to hit the silicon lottery with cpu's). Yeah, I sorta read about that. I was quite ready to jump the gun with the 1080 classy but got so disappointed with it i held off ordering a new gpu. But it seems wise to hold off a few weeks or even a month to see what the HoF might offer or if the Classy comes around. Would KPE (assuming I got that part right) be a better choice for me or would it most likely be wasted potential since I'm aiming for stable game clocks(I know it's only hypothetical until we do really see the card but, oh well)?
    
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So I have an Aorus (non-Xtreme) and I figured that since I'm waiting on the waterblock to be released that I'll try the 1v challenge. Here are my results with 2012 core @ 1v. Absolutely no Perfcaps in GPU-Z and I've done multiple runs through Superposition 4k and Heaven and have been playing Ghost Recon Wildlands for a couple hours with no issues. Might be able to either get a higher clock or drop the voltage even more. Haven't tried that yet.

BTW just an FYI, I learned that if you select a point in your voltage curve and then press the "L" key and it will lock it to that bin. I've found that it does still drop a bin so lock it on the next point up that you are aiming for.


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So I have an Aorus (non-Xtreme) and I figured that since I'm waiting on the waterblock to be released that I'll try the 1v challenge. Here are my results with 2012 core @ 1v. Absolutely no Perfcaps in GPU-Z and I've done multiple runs through Superposition 4k and Heaven and have been playing Ghost Recon Wildlands for a couple hours with no issues. Might be able to either get a higher clock or drop the voltage even more. Haven't tried that yet.

BTW just an FYI, I learned that if you select a point in your voltage curve and then press the "L" key and it will lock it to that bin. I've found that it does still drop a bin so lock it on the next point up that you are aiming for.


Nice, 2K at 1V is good. What was your superposition score?
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