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post #7021 of 10794
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Originally Posted by viz0id View Post

That is true. But when run long enough, would it not catch some higher values over a longer period? Eventually one would think that it would be polling the information at a higher TDP?

And if it is true like you said, and it is in fact power throttling, i find it weird that just an increase of +10 on the memory would make it go totally banans. It's like no perfcaps what so ever. Increase by +10 on the mem clock and it goes mental.

Really annoying that i cant get an understand of it.

EDIT: I can even run the card at 2088 without pwr throttle, but once the temp goes above whatever in the 30-40C range it goes down to 2075, then again down to 2062 on somewhere in the 50's. (soft temp throttle)


Look at the images, I posted a image showing a graph of voltage, temperature and core. I'm on my phone so I can't repost it.
post #7022 of 10794
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Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post

Look at the images, I posted a image showing a graph of voltage, temperature and core. I'm on my phone so I can't repost it.

I'm sorry i clicked quite a few pages back but couldn't find it. What page was this at? Is it today or some other day?

Just to clarify i understand the voltage curve and the soft temp throttle etc. What i dont understand is what is making my card go bananas with a moderate memory clock when the core clock is well above average.
post #7023 of 10794
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Originally Posted by viz0id View Post

I'm sorry i clicked quite a few pages back but couldn't find it. What page was this at? Is it today or some other day?

Just to clarify i understand the voltage curve and the soft temp throttle etc. What i dont understand is what is making my card go bananas with a moderate memory clock when the core clock is well above average.

Sorry it's actually not what you're looking for. But I saw an article relating core clocks and memory before.

There is no relationship with memory oc and core, they can be completely random on hiw they affect one another.

Upper right you can see all images in this thread, it is near the end as it was posted a few days ago.

Or easier, click my profile and look at my images for this thread.
post #7024 of 10794
Got my SC2 in yesterday and did a fresh install of w10 on a new SSD. I haven't had a chance to do much of anything other than a quick test game of PU battlegrounds on ultra and some FFXIV. The card is definitely not downclocking to an idle frequency which I kind of expected. I didn't have this issue with my 780ti, but I am running 1x144hz and 2x60hz panels and am aware that this is an issue on pascal cards. The card is idling at 1480 core and temperatures are in the mid 50s. Under sustained gaming load it capped at 72c on the stock fan curve and was somewhere in the upper 1900s core (i wasn't really watching). I still have my side panel off and I couldn't hear the card at all over my h100i, even under load. Also love the way it looks!

I plan to start with only capping the power slider in XOC and adjusting the fan curve to a more aggressive one. I don't plan on manually overclocking this card, but I am interested to see what kind of gains (if any) I see by just moving sliders and adjusting the curve. I will be playing the dark souls III expansion tonight and can report back with some results.
post #7025 of 10794
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Originally Posted by foolycooly View Post

Got my SC2 in yesterday and did a fresh install of w10 on a new SSD. I haven't had a chance to do much of anything other than a quick test game of PU battlegrounds on ultra and some FFXIV. The card is definitely not downclocking to an idle frequency which I kind of expected. I didn't have this issue with my 780ti, but I am running 1x144hz and 2x60hz panels and am aware that this is an issue on pascal cards. The card is idling at 1480 core and temperatures are in the mid 50s. Under sustained gaming load it capped at 72c on the stock fan curve and was somewhere in the upper 1900s core (i wasn't really watching). I still have my side panel off and I couldn't hear the card at all over my h100i, even under load. Also love the way it looks!

I plan to start with only capping the power slider in XOC and adjusting the fan curve to a more aggressive one. I don't plan on manually overclocking this card, but I am interested to see what kind of gains (if any) I see by just moving sliders and adjusting the curve. I will be playing the dark souls III expansion tonight and can report back with some results.

The card should be downclocking to an idle. People have their performance set to "maximum performance" globally. So that will cause it not to idle quite often or at all.

Make sure you don't have this setting set in global settings. Just leave it at optimal power. Not worth the hassle. If you want to set high performance, do it per a game or app basis.

If none of the above applies to you, then I don't know. My GPU downlocks to 139 mhz fine with a 1440P 144hz monitor on my desktop with power usage going down to 5-8%
post #7026 of 10794
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Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post

The card should be downclocking to an idle. People have their performance set to "maximum performance" globally. So that will cause it not to idle quite often or at all.

Make sure you don't have this setting set in global settings. Just leave it at optimal power. Not worth the hassle. If you want to set high performance, do it per a game or app basis.

If none of the above applies to you, then I don't know. My GPU downlocks to 139 mhz fine with a 1440P 144hz monitor on my desktop with power usage going down to 5-8%

Based on the countless threads/posts on the topic, it seems to be related to running multiple monitors at mixed refresh rates (not sure if you are running more than your 144hz panel or not). I do have the power settings in NCP set to "optimal" (do not have maximum performance set globally). I have a list of a few things I want to try tonight to see if I can correct the issue, but I'm not overly concerned if I can't. Even in the mid 50s only one of the two fans spins and it's silent. It would be nice to get those idle temps down into the 20s or 30s, but I can't imagine running 50-60 24/7 would significantly shorten the lifespan of the card.

I would like to see how the stock "aggressive" fan curve does in games. I was hoping to see under 70 at full sustained load.
post #7027 of 10794
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Originally Posted by foolycooly View Post

Based on the countless threads/posts on the topic, it seems to be related to running multiple monitors at mixed refresh rates (not sure if you are running more than your 144hz panel or not). I do have the power settings in NCP set to "optimal" (do not have maximum performance set globally). I have a list of a few things I want to try tonight to see if I can correct the issue, but I'm not overly concerned if I can't. Even in the mid 50s only one of the two fans spins and it's silent. It would be nice to get those idle temps down into the 20s or 30s, but I can't imagine running 50-60 24/7 would significantly shorten the lifespan of the card.

I would like to see how the stock "aggressive" fan curve does in games. I was hoping to see under 70 at full sustained load.

You're right, I'm only running one monitor.

Hopefully you find a solution and report back to us. But meantime, could you put your monitor on the desktop to 120 Hz and have it do max monitor refresh rates for games? I did that when the bug was really bad on maxwell cards. It seemed to work.

Gaming would go to 144 hz, desktop would be at 120 hz.
post #7028 of 10794
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Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post

You're right, I'm only running one monitor.

Hopefully you find a solution and report back to us. But meantime, could you put your monitor on the desktop to 120 Hz and have it do max monitor refresh rates for games? I did that when the bug was really bad on maxwell cards. It seemed to work.

Gaming would go to 144 hz, desktop would be at 120 hz.

Yeah, thanks, I will definitely report back if I find a solution.

I did try changing to 120hz and it didn't make a difference which is odd cause this corrects the issue for most people. My quick list of things to try based on what was worked for other people:

  • Enable K boost in XOC and then disable it again
  • Shut down the PC fully then power back on rather than doing a soft reset (didn't do this during my experimenting)
  • Change one of my side 60hz panels to the main display in windows, then revert back to the 144hz center panel being the main display
  • Running all 3 monitors off of displayport (right now I have 144hz DP, 60hz DP, 60hz DVI)
  • Toggle Gsync to "full screen only" then back to "full screen and windowed"
  • Kill extraneous Nvidia processes in task manager (someone mentioned seeing Nvidia "share" processes that when killed resolved the issue). Also checking GPU usage through NCP to identify if a process is using high GPU.
  • DDU clean install of latest driver with ONLY the 144hz panel connected. After install, plug secondary monitors back in.
  • Use Nvidia Inspector to enable multi display power saving mode (i would prefer not to do this)
post #7029 of 10794
So i have no idea what i did. Well i do, but i have no idea why it had such an impact.

I just reinstalled afterburner and did a fresh curve and everything. Ended up now being allowed to run around 2037-2062 on core all Superposition and +300 on the mem (which i never could do before). The TDP% now makes sense, actually showing me getting to 120% when it gets throttled.

Pushed over 10k for the first time

post #7030 of 10794
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Originally Posted by Roadrunners View Post

Pushed over 10k for the first time

Congrats! Fortunately it seems to just have been a software- and not a hardware problem.
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