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post #7091 of 10759
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Originally Posted by RMBR View Post

True or false?
Two 1080ti in sli is underperforming.
It has games like wildlands with perfomance equal to 1080 sli.
FAIL?

SLI is fail nowadays in 90% of cases....
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post #7092 of 10759
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Maybe because Stock FireStrike is a CPU test? Run Extreme, Ultra or TimeSpy and then compare.

What's your point? But sure. Here you go. Not bad huh?

I'd rather upgrade my CPU and Mobo than get a second card and deal with micro stutter ..but that's just me.

Time Spy

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1595031

FS Ultra

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12445747
post #7093 of 10759
SLI sort the noobs out my current build is the first non SLI system I have had since the 8800 GTX days I only had minor issues mainly trying to play a game a few days after launch

I guess a bit like the superstition bench SLI was only broken for a few days till it got patched.

I am thinking of getting another 1080 Ti to finally max out games
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post #7094 of 10759
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Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post

That's why we're waiting for you to do your power draw test from the wall.

That's the last piece of evidence we can rely on.

We can't trust software 100% because we're tricking software and hardware. Unless if someone can dive in and tell us how the code reads what is going on, we're stuck speculating.

A readout from the wall is the most sure proof way.

Understood.

Thursday it is then.

I'll include methodology/exactly how test was carried out & a walkthrough plus numbers; possibly in real-time using camera or screenshots + photos with before's/after's.
Should be pretty straight forward;

Fingers crossed its giving something ;-)

Anyone know if there's a VRM Analysis anywhere on the PALIT card? (Showing the name of the chip at the heart the power monitoring- for instance; Texas Instruments UT6 D501 and VRM chip UP9571).
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/25/17 at 3:09pm
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post #7095 of 10759
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I tested the Palit GameRock BIOS and i see no improvement regarding power limit over stock BIOS - i set the PL to 350W with nvsmi command. SUPO is only stable with 1.0V on stock or ASUS BIOS and downclocks the same as Palit even only on 1.025V.

Still need someone with a corsair power link capable PSU to do test for us. I honestly don't know if I trust software since we're technically manipulating it.
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Understood.

Thursday it is then.

I'll include methodology/exactly how test was carried out & a walkthrough plus numbers either at the time; or in real time (I'll know more once I begin and am able to get a 'feel for it'. But it's pretty straight forward.

Fingers crossed its giving something ;-)

Thank you. I wish I could do it but it took quite awhile to install the shunt mod, don't want to undo it, lol.
Edited by SlimJ87D - 4/25/17 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by Benny89 View Post

SLI is fail nowadays in 90% of cases....

SLI is pretty well supported for most of the part and is needed right now to max games at 60fps 4k.
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Still need someone with a corsair power link capable PSU to do test for us. I honestly don't know if I trust software since we're technically manipulating it.
Thank you. I wish I could do it but it took quite awhile to install the shunt mod, don't want to undo it, lol.

np

did you use liquid metal? (if so, which one; and any reason for that preference)?

(don't worry; i'll do the test before I shut mod myself).. not even sure I am going to do the shut mod yet.... (ha; who am I kidding; myself probably.. it's more a matter of when than if lol).
Edited by nrpeyton - 4/25/17 at 2:44pm
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post #7098 of 10759
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Originally Posted by nrpeyton View Post

np

did you use liquid metal? (if so, which one; and any reason for that preference)?

(don't worry; i'll do the test before I shut mod myself).. not even sure I am going to do the shut mod yet.... (ha; who am I kidding; myself probably.. it's more a matter of when than if lol).

I used CLU and I insulated the resistor and solder joints using liquid electrical tape which is really cheap and removable.

Before you shunt mod, you can see if more voltage actually does anything for you.

Voltage allows me to go form 2088 Mhz to 2114 Mhz and requires 1.075-1.092v to run. So that power limited me when I was at that voltage.

So before you shunt mod, ask yourself

1. Does your card get higher clocks at higher voltages? A lot of people don't benefit from higher voltages.
2. Can your card do a run through Heaven benchmark and do some scenes at these voltages and clocks? My card was able to run at 2114 Mhz through certain scenes of Heaven, so that gave me an idea if the shunt was worth it for me or not.

If your answer is yes to both of these, then shunt mod might be worth it. If not, then shunt mod won't be worth it.

For me personally, it's nice playing Witcher 3 with the shunt mod. Previously, during intense fight scenes my card would be at 2088, then go down to 2073, 2068 and back up to 2088. It was jumping around and when it jumped around, I would experience stutter and slow downs even with G-Sync. Probably the card going berserk and having to recalculate TDP.

From my experience, if your maximum power draw is 300 Watts, starting at 280 Watts the card starts recalculating TDP and freaking out since it's a safe guard for you to not go past 300 Watts. Although I have seen the card temporarily hit 330 watts stock a few times it never lasts for more than a few seconds.

So be careful with these spikes if you see and read them. Try and read the power that is consistant. If for example Afterburner shows you hit 124% or 132% at some point, then that spike is in your data.



So when your card is reading 119%-120% that's your real maximum power draw. Honestly I would just hold a phone and record your wall reader and record it and when you see power draw hit 119%-120% I would just stop the video 5 seconds after that. That way you know in the last 10 seconds of your video you got the max power draw.

Then do it with Palit bios and when it hits 116% (hopefully it does), do the same thing. We don't want to read those temporary "spikes" which can be like 130% randomly.

Good luck! And thank you for investigating this in the name of science.
post #7099 of 10759
Anyone get ahold of the new drivers yet?
post #7100 of 10759
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Originally Posted by Foxrun View Post

SLI is pretty well supported for most of the part and is needed right now to max games at 60fps 4k.

Plug in "your favorite card + SLI microstutter" into google and try to say that again?

I used to run nothing but SLI and then I did the unthinkable and tried a single card. Lower ultimate FPS yes but the fluidity is noticeable. The lack of micro stutter and latency on a single card is alone worth it. Most are better off to beef up a single card over getting SLI.

I don't even game with max settings anyway as I need ˜100fps so game at 1440p. For competitive online play I turn off a lot of FPS killers like motion blur and if that's not enough you can always turn down some settings. That's much more enjoyable than having no escape from microstutter. Once you notice it, there is no escape.

The power draw associated with it and the feeling of having a $700 paperweight in poorly optimized titles only adds to the grief. Not something I want to experience again.

I haven't even begun to talk about the lack of proper G-sync support in SLI. Where the cards are not 100% utilized and a single card actually performs better.

This thread has enough pain and frustration to have convinced me to not run 1080 in SLI and just run a single Ti.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/946818/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-sli-low-gpu-usage-while-g-sync-enabled/

Maybe Volta will change all this, but don't hold your breath.

About the only use I see for SLI is in synthetic calculations, folding and GPU rendering...otherwise save yourself the $$, buy a better processor, better cooling or invest it in something worthy.
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