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Lol, then I change my statement. For nearly only 1/3rd the price. (as you're right, you can overclock the 1700 to same leve as 1800x for nearly £200 lessl).

So imagine that folks, a 1080TI performance for $238. Because that's effectively what AMD just did with Ryzen.
that's nuts. Would they still be so consumer friendly if they were in a stronger position? Probably not, but the competition alone would still keep prices down.
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Finally! That means maybe we will see soon FTW Hybrid with 2x8 pin and higher TDP.


For now I want to try Kraken G10 plus Corsair H90. Which card would you recommend? I thought about Palit since it has 350W limit or Aorus non-Xtreme for 375W TDP or FE because with sub 50 temps I should be able to squeeze it a little bit more.

Anyone had any experience with Palit? Do they void warranty if you remove cooler and slap block/AIO on it?

I ordered the EVGA SC2 Hybrid. No guarantee they'll do a FTW variant.

If I can get it close to the performance of my Zotac Amp Extreme, I'll sell the Zotac and keep the Hybrid.

Also ordered a Noctua NF12 industrial PWM 2000 fan to swap out on the radiator.
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Well I'm rocking my old £100 CPU (AMD FX-8350) just now: lol

Witcher 3
4K
Ultra
FPS: 52

GPU:
1999Mhz at 981mv (drawing only 229 watts)
memory: +555
temp: 65c
fan: 100%
noise: okay with headphones on, otherwise unbearable lol.


Well I must say, it sure as hell isn't greedy. I'm only feeding it bread and water and it'll still do my old FX proud at 4k ;-)



Under-volting has so many benefits ;-)
Clock has only changed bin once (first 40 seconds of game-play).

Over 2.GHZ, its a totally different ball game.
It wants 1 millivolt per 1 megahert.

Edited by nrpeyton - 5/2/17 at 7:21pm
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post #8074 of 10408
FTW3 has a 10-phase VRM, which is actually a true 5-phase VRM with doublers. FE has a true 8-phase VRM with 2 phases sharing an inductor. In term of voltage purity, I think FE > FTW.
post #8075 of 10408
My best scores are actually with EVGA BIOS

Time Spy Graphics Score: 11 088
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1677135

Time Spy stress test: 99.5%
http://www.3dmark.com/tsst/45857


FSU graphics score: 7 910
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12510310

FSU stress test: 98.9%
http://www.3dmark.com/fsst/421941

No PWR limit with TS at all, some minor pwt limits with FSU first scene.
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FTW3 has a 10-phase VRM, which is actually a true 5-phase VRM with doublers. FE has a true 8-phase VRM with 2 phases sharing an inductor. In term of voltage purity, I think FE > FTW.

Can you explain that a little more please? I am debating about ordering FTW3 vs getting FE and slapping Kraken G10 on it so any additional info would be appreciated smile.gif.
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I ordered the EVGA SC2 Hybrid. No guarantee they'll do a FTW variant.

If I can get it close to the performance of my Zotac Amp Extreme, I'll sell the Zotac and keep the Hybrid.

Also ordered a Noctua NF12 industrial PWM 2000 fan to swap out on the radiator.

Nice, be sure to share your OC results. I don't like that it is 8+6 pin only and that copper cover from pump itself is also cooling VRAM since imo that will only adds temps to core...




Also, I didn't find any information about Power Limit of Hybrid SC. If it is only 300W then it is really dissapointing. 350W with Hybrid cooler would allow for better OC potential.

But I have to wait anyway till they will appear in my country so I am in no rush.
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Can you explain that a little more please? I am debating about ordering FTW3 vs getting FE and slapping Kraken G10 on it so any additional info would be appreciated smile.gif.
Nice, be sure to share your OC results. I don't like that it is 8+6 pin only and that copper cover from pump itself is also cooling VRAM since imo that will only adds temps to core...




Also, I didn't find any information about Power Limit of Hybrid SC. If it is only 300W then it is really dissapointing. 350W with Hybrid cooler would allow for better OC potential.

But I have to wait anyway till they will appear in my country so I am in no rush.

My sources:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2844-gtx-1080-ti-fe-pcb-analysis-shunt-mod
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2896-evga-1080ti-ftw3-pcb-analysis

basically a 10-phase controller doesn't not exist. the most you can get is an 8-phase controller.
more true phase = cleaner voltage = better overclocking maybe
more total phase = higher current capability = higher TDP on air

It means FE has cleaner cleaner voltage while FTW can supply more current. And current capability doesn't really matter for gtx 1080 ti cards anyways if you are willing to do a shunt mod/bios swap.
post #8078 of 10408
Isn't the FE 7+2 power phases?

Not sure if any card other than Zotac does 16+2 but that's the highest I've seen.
post #8079 of 10408
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Isn't the FE 7+2 power phases?

Not sure if any card other than Zotac does 16+2 but that's the highest I've seen.

FE has 8 sets of drivers+mosfets, but there are 2 sets of driver mosfet combo that share 1 inductor for load balancing purpose. So it is a advertised as a 7-phase VRM design. As long as you can keep these mosfets cool enough so they don't burst into fire, FE's 7+2 will perform just as good as 16+2
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Originally Posted by Luckbad View Post

Isn't the FE 7+2 power phases?

Not sure if any card other than Zotac does 16+2 but that's the highest I've seen.

More phases is not neccessarily better. In fact on power constrained cards like the GTX 1080ti, its better to have less but more efficient phases to minimize heat output and power losses.
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Originally Posted by Coopiklaani View Post

FTW3 has a 10-phase VRM, which is actually a true 5-phase VRM with doublers. FE has a true 8-phase VRM with 2 phases sharing an inductor. In term of voltage purity, I think FE > FTW.

Actually, the EVGA card might win here over the FE because the switching speed on the MOSFETs is faster, additionally, it doesn't have that weird alternating design the FE has.

Faster switching speed is extremely beneficial because you need a lot less VDROOP to prevent spikes, this in turn is more beneficial for voltage stability and longevity of the components.
Edited by Dasboogieman - 5/2/17 at 8:05pm
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