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Hey sorry this is late. Yes it can damage the compressor technically speaking. But to be honest probably not as I see units run low on charge all the time and survive. It's not recommended but can work. I would say use a vacuum pump but if money is tight you could skip the vacuum pump so the old fashion way and bleed the lines when charging and the drier will catch the rest. Once again not ideal but I've done it and never had a problem

Hmm, I hadn't heard of that. I still have to cut things up because I need to install valves to service it with - so I don't think that'll be a viable option for me but that's good to know still.
Is swapping the cap tube out for a TXV my best bet? And how hard is it to adjust or tune the TXV once installed?
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Not hard to adjust the txv once installed as long as you
Know what superheat you
Need or want. You could even just use a cap tube as it cost next to nothing. That is if you find one that matches you re unit
    
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I mentioned the oil as I do a lot of change overs of
Refrigerant. And going from mineral oil (usually r22 or 12) to Poe oil will cause any gaskets to dry out and leak as Poe is solvent. Also mixing oils can cause acidic to build and kill a compressor
    
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Not hard to adjust the txv once installed as long as you
Know what superheat you
Need or want. You could even just use a cap tube as it cost next to nothing. That is if you find one that matches you re unit
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Originally Posted by emsj86 View Post

I mentioned the oil as I do a lot of change overs of
Refrigerant. And going from mineral oil (usually r22 or 12) to Poe oil will cause any gaskets to dry out and leak as Poe is solvent. Also mixing oils can cause acidic to build and kill a compressor

Interesting. I knew you shouldn't mix, but I didn't know why. Thanks for letting me know!
R404a and R134a both typically run on POE, right? So this should be a fine switch.

By finding a cap tube that matches, you're saying I just need to make sure it has the same diameter and such?
I assume this is because trying to braze a different size tube on will be much more work than it's worth?
post #55 of 113
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Couple updates:


New Parts
My new pump has arrived and I ordered better memory for performance.

My new pump is an MCP50x. I think I'm gonna be sticking with the MCP line up for a while. This is due to a couple reasons. First, the form factor of these pumps is nice. They're small. Second, from my personal experience, they seem very durable. Third, they do a lot of work for the size they are.
FrozenCPU has a chart on most of their pumps that compare it with other pumps:
http://www.frozencpu.com/images/awards/pumpchartpdf.pdf

I've screenshotted it here for convenience.


You can see the MCP delivers about as much head as any of the other pumps and it does it at 12v. The flow rate is decent, but the pressure it's able to apply is the big factor for me.


The RAM I ordered was Trident Z series 3200MHz CL14. It was listed as a supported ram module in my motherboard's compatibility list... so hopefully this means I can see 3200MHz. It looks like that bump will be substantial coming from 2133MHz CL15.


Overclocking at -40 to -50

If I can actually hold -40c, I think I'll be able to run 4.3+GHz 24/7.
I guess I could suffer through that...


https://valid.x86.fr/03si2x



To Purchase List

This is more or less for my record and organizing my thoughts, but one of the amazing things about this forum in particular is that there is someone here who knows way more than me on any given topic. I can ask about electrical components or refrigeration or overclocking and there's someone here who's good at it. So if I write something stupid they can hopefully correct me biggrin.gif

  • $300 Full metal Fury X waterblocks
  • $30 A lot more insulation for the reservoir and perhaps to reline the interior of the chillbox. I do not like how the pink stuff looks.
  • $50 Wood and acrylic sheet to remake the door on the front
  • $150-200 Methanol (perhaps Windshield wiper fluid or something like Heet)
  • $10 Schrader valves
  • $20 cap tube
  • $120 Vacuum pump (3.5 to 5cfm maybe?)
  • $100 Gauge manifold

Total est. $800

I'll probably slowly purchase this stuff over the course of a month or two. I can't eat the cost right now. I've blown a lot already rolleyes.gif
Edited by Skyl3r - 4/7/17 at 6:19am
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This has been a fantastic read, subbing to stay posted.

Glad you found it interesting!
Also, Ohio overclockers unite thumb.gif
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Okay, more stuff!

My Swiftech MCP50x came in, as well as conformal coating.




I've got to say, this new MCP pump feels like a tank compared to my MCP35x.




Other News

I figured I'd show some of the other goings on around my computer for the sake of the build log.
Below you can see what I presume to be a chewed up piece of plastic from my dead pump.


You may have seen in one of my previous pictures, I have a computer set up above my chillbox.


This is an Opteron based computer. It's running an Opteron 6276. I use it as a file server for my main system. I've actually got it connected with a technology called Infiniband. I get 10 gigabit connection speed and I use this system to run all of my games and software off of. My main system only has a 60GB SSD now.

I think it was quite the good purchase. The cable costed $15 and it's 12 meters long. Each of the network cards cost $20. So all in all it was $55 and a couple hours to figure out how drivers worked.
Edited by Skyl3r - 4/8/17 at 6:39pm
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Glad you found it interesting!
Also, Ohio overclockers unite thumb.gif

There are more of us than you think, then again there isn't much to do in Ohio besides drink and overclock.
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There are more of us than you think, then again there isn't much to do in Ohio besides drink and overclock.
Haha, too true. I was about to say "there's other things to do", but then I considered what I spend my weekends doing...


So, I'm not going to be purchasing any new parts for two weeks. Then the struggle is... would I better off with a Radeon ProDuo for 4-way XFire before fitting everything with full metal blocks?
The real draw to it is not at all that I think I need the performance. I'm almost 100% sure I'd be the first one with 4-way GPU's on a Ryzen board. That's a pretty attractive thought. I'm still one of 3 people who did a 3-GPU run on TimeSpy. The first 4-way run would be really cool. http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1402289/spy/1367608/spy/1402879

It's either that or I'm gonna get the XSPC blocks for my Fury X's and go ahead and start prepping for switching to alcohol based coolant.
Edited by Skyl3r - 4/10/17 at 5:55am
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