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Major issues and solutions

Random BIOS updating message killing boards (fixed in 0902/1001/0038 and newer)

Please update ASAP to 0902 or newer. Using this BIOS do not go above 1.20V on the CPU SOC Voltage. Before updating, restore CMOS default settings and make sure CPU SOC Voltage is below 1.0V (recommended value 0.95V), or use USB BIOS Flashback.

EK Predator & Supremacy backplate issue

Using the EK Predator or Supremacy rubber gasket causes the board not to turn on or become unstable. Contact EK directly for a replacement.

Temperature readings (fixed in 1001 and 0038)

Tctl readings can be off on 0902, to fix set Sense MI skew = Enabled and Sense MI offset = 272. Most reliable sensor is the CPU sensor reading from SIO (listed under Crosshair VI Hero in HWInfo64).

DRAM Ratios above 2666

Higher than 2666 DRAM Ratios only work using 2x8GB Samsung B-based DRAM. Using other configurations you have to rely on REFCLK to increase your DRAM frequency from that point.

Fan Control (fixed in 1001/0038 and newer)

0902 breaks fan control for AiSuite/DIP5. Update to 1001 to fix.


Crosshair VI Hero

It seems there are still a lot of questions and unknowns about this platform on this forum so I'll try to gather it in here.



Disclamer: All information/software/firmware available here is provided as is, with no warranties and often in beta stage. Use at your own risk.

Collaterals
  • 1002 Fixes a few bugs in 1001. No improvement in performance or overclocking range.
  • 1001 (DRAM 1T mode) Restore defaults before flashing, or use USB BIOS Flashback.
  • 0038 (DRAM 2T mode) Same as 1001 but DRAM set to 2T mode, better on some systems.
  • BIOS 0902 First BIOS with fixed "BIOS updating" problems. Superseded by 1001.
  • C6H XOC guide v05 Targeted to extreme overclockers but also has useful information for ambient and daily use
  • C6H OC Pack 0302 Has some tools mainly for benchmarking and extreme overclocking (also W7 USB drivers)

First thing you should know is that this platform (AM4 overall) is very rushed and will keep improving through the coming months through firmware updates, this goes for all MB vendors. AFAIK the C6H is the only motherboard available at launch which is able to get the most out of the platform due to adjustable reference clock.

DRAM overclocking data collection

Please answer this form with your results https://goo.gl/forms/zSycLSBqPhSgoWO72



DRAM selection

Recommended DRAM configuration at the moment is 2x8GB Samsung B-die based DIMMs which will yield the best performance (3300-3466 CL14 24/7) and least issues. Worst configuration is dual-rank 2x16GB, especially Hynix-based DRAM (4xSR is best at the moment if you need 32GB and high speed). The C6H is the only board able to run higher than 2666 on configurations other than 2xSR. See the XOC guide for further details.





Geekbench 3 memory/timing scaling

So what's the main case for the C6H except for getting records on LN2? DRAM performance. Below data is at fixed 3.7GHz CPU frequency.





Note that these results are for reference only and should be taken as an indicator but the trend-line is clear. 2666 and above ratios can only use even CAS Latency numbers which is why it's running 2933 @ 14-13-13-13-36. The last 3466 CL14 data point is using the 2400 DRAM ratio but at 144.4 MHz reference clock which yields tighter sub-timings. These are all attainable 24/7 memory frequencies (3466 might be a stretch on some systems). Screenshots available here for verification and comparison.


Feel free to ask questions and share your experiences below. And for full disclosure I work for ROG MB R&D.
Edited by elmor - 3/24/17 at 4:55am
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Thanks for this Elmor, will be using it when I get mine up and running.

I had an issue with my board, started off displaying an "8" or "B" Q-Code, I tried for several hours to get it to even post, manual never had any data of what those Q-Codes are or the 30 and 46 codes I would occasionally get.

Any ideas?
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Thanks for this Elmor, will be using it when I get mine up and running.

I had an issue with my board, started off displaying an "8" or "B" Q-Code, I tried for several hours to get it to even post, manual never had any data of what those Q-Codes are or the 30 and 46 codes I would occasionally get.

Any ideas?

Post codes are in the XOC guide. 8 is equivalent to 00 on other platforms, means your CPU is not operational. Check if it's seated properly and a DMM to check if Core & SOC voltages are coming up.
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Originally Posted by Sgt Bilko View Post

Thanks for this Elmor, will be using it when I get mine up and running.

I had an issue with my board, started off displaying an "8" or "B" Q-Code, I tried for several hours to get it to even post, manual never had any data of what those Q-Codes are or the 30 and 46 codes I would occasionally get.

Any ideas?

Post codes are in the XOC guide. 8 is equivalent to 00 on other platforms, means your CPU is not operational. Check if it's seated properly and a DMM to check if Core & SOC voltages are coming up.

I just noticed them when you posted, seating was good but I've heard a little extra downward pressure on the CPU itself might help, that true?

No DMM here I'm afraid.
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I just noticed them when you posted, seating was good but I've heard a little extra downward pressure on the CPU itself might help, that true?

No DMM here I'm afraid.

You shouldn't need extra pressure. Try reseating the CPU, just press lightly on the IHS while lowering the lever after seating the CPU. What about these leds, on or off?

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Hmm
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Any idea on EVGA SuperSC performance (http://www.microcenter.com/product/459741/16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3000_(PC4-24000)_CL15_Desktop_Memory_Kit and http://www.microcenter.com/product/459742/16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3200_PC4-25600_CL16_Desktop_Memory_Kit) vs Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 (Vengeance LPX CL15 DDR4-3000) performance? (https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/)


From Gigabyte manual for Gaming 5:
CORSAIR 8GB 1Rx8 CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 ver 5.30 SKhynix 15-17-17-35 1.35V

I can't find the specs for the EVGA memory anywhere.

edit: from Asrock the Gskill modules supported
DDR4 3200 8GB G.Skill F4-3200CL14D-16GBTZ SS 2pcs .... Trident Z
DDR4 3200 8GB G.Skill F4-3200CL14D-16GFXR SS 2pcs
DDR4 3200 8GB G.Skill F4-3200CL14D-16GFX SS 2pcs
DDR4 3200 8GB G.Skill F4-3200C16-8GTZR SS 2pcs ... Trident Z
DDR4 3000 8GB G.Skill F4-3000C16D-16GISB SS 2pcs ... Aegis
DDR4 3000 4GB G.Skill F4-3000C15Q-16GRR SS 2pcs ...4GB sticks :/

* F4-3200C14D-16GFX also listed on MSI for 3200MHz but supposedly hynix modules :S
F4-3200C14Q2-64GTZ, F4-3200C14D-16GFX on Xpower page

*listed on ASUS CH VI Hero QVL for 3200MHz (single side, 14-14-14-34, 1.35V):
F4-3200C14D-16GVR ... Ripjaws V
F4-3200C14D-16GVK ... Ripjaws V
F4-3200C14D-16GTZ ... Trident Z
F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW ... Trident Z
F4-3200C14D-16GTZKY ... Trident Z
F4-3200C14D-6GTZKO
F4-3200C14D-16GTZSW ... Trident Z
F4-3200C14D-16GTZSK ... Trident Z

edit: I believe we need to wait for Flare X from G-Skill ,
http://www.gskill.com/en/press/view/g-skill-announces-flare-x-series-and-fortis-series-ddr4-memory-for-amd-ryzen
" G.SKILL’s R&D team achieved an impressive overclock on a 64GB (4x16GB) kit to frequencies of DDR4-3200MHz at ultra-low timings of CL14-14-14-34"
"Further pushing the boundaries of 16GB (2x8GB) memory kits on the AM4 platform, G.SKILL tuned it to a blistering fast DDR4-3466MHz CL 16-16-16-36."
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I would not buy any of those RAM. Look for some other better ones. 3000-3200 CL14-16 should be a good sweet spot for DDR4. Avoid Hynix.
EVGA RAM, seeing that first time, wouldn't touch. Corsair has Hynix so no either.
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@elmor

Thank you for thread and info thumb.gif , looking forward to my new build of R7 1700 with CH6 smile.gif .
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anyone running DDR4 3000 To 3600 ?????

Looking to get F4-3000C16D-16GTZR
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