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Originally Posted by crossbone View Post

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It's just to make sure. There must be a difference between Qcode 24 and 44 otherwise those two would not exist.

And the strange thing is that the Q-Code changes from 24 to 44 in exactly the second when the stutter/freeze first appears. Hardly coincidence.

I have both 24 and 44 now and then and not noticed any stuttering, is it just with RB that you get it?
post #10042 of 16743
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Originally Posted by madweazl View Post

To throw a monkey wrench in the mix, I'm also on a 960 Evo but haven't observed any stuttering issues in any benchmark, game, or other as of yet.

Are you using the windows default nvme driver or samsung nvme driver?

Btw I can also confirm that the freezing only happens with memory intensive stress tests, OCCT standard or Prime95 Small FFT for example works fine.

Possibly something to do with paging so maybe disabling the pagefile could be something to try?
post #10043 of 16743
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Originally Posted by 4rcherz View Post

I have both 24 and 44 now and then and not noticed any stuttering, is it just with RB that you get it?

No it is not just with RB. Other random things where i got this behaviour - Games: Knights of Pen & Paper 2, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 HD Edition, OCCT Linpack
post #10044 of 16743
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Originally Posted by 4rcherz View Post

I have both 24 and 44 now and then and not noticed any stuttering, is it just with RB that you get it?

Maybe the brief freeze is nearly unnoticeable under normal circumstances but gets amplified to multiple second long freezes under certain conditions? I've personally not seen the qcode change from 24 other than when these very noticeable long freezes start happening during a stress test though I've only been testing this build for a few days.
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Originally Posted by badhairguy View Post

Have you tried BCLK overclock? I have Samsung B Die G-Skill TridentZ 2x16GB and I can't boot at anything over a 2666MHz strap but I can run at 3200MHz if i increase bclk to 120mhz. The microcode update coming from AMD in May should address these issues, but until then, try a bclk overclock. For reference, I am running two 1070s in SLI at GEN3 and a 960 EVO m.2 drive in GEN3 as well with 120 bclk with no issues.
Yes i have tried that and i can onlyget it semi stable and anything higher than 2933mhz, i have trident z rgb 3000mhz cl15, only thing i can get is my timings when choosing the standard docp, but i gues i wil have to wait for a new bios before i can it above 2933mhz stable, would love to get this kit to 3600mhz some day :-)
Before i forget i use two sticks of 8gb :-)
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post #10046 of 16743
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Originally Posted by Brko View Post

Yes, TRUE BTK + AM4 upgrade kit which they gave it for free (paid only P&P). Original Venomous BTK is only for Intel AFAIK.

So, what do you think? Leave MBO's backplate and install this one form TR or use this one with MBO?

I did not receive MBO yet (on Friday) so I do not know is it plastic or metal.

Mobo AM4 backplate is nice metal one wink.gif , I would use that. If you compare it to TRUE BTK it has more contact with mobo, which I prefer. Below is image from TR AM4 install guide. The red outlined / arrowed elements meet back of mobo, where as AM4 backplate is greater area, again my preference.






If you wish to use TR backplate instead of AM4 be aware it has a sticky pad between it and mobo. I used hairdryer to warm AM4 backplate and it came away easily with little manual pulling. I had zero sticky residue left on mobo. Prior to doing that method I asked in thread and Elmor gave green light to do wink.gif .

Interesting they gave your free TRUE BTK. I have Archon SB-E X2 and IB-E X2. They wanted initially 9.99€ for TRUE BTK for Archon SB-E plus 15.90€ shipping, total of ~£22. I was quite upset by this. I pointed out I also have 5x TY-143 fans and still own a ThermalRight TRUE 120 Rev.A plus owned other TR coolers over the years. They came down to 9.99€ for TRUE BTK plus 8.50€ shipping = ~£16 with FOC 2x AM4 back/top plate. The TRUE BTK also had a AM4 back/top plate eh-smiley.gif , so now I have 3x AM4 back/top plate. I did also point out that Be Quiet / Noctua offer FOC AM4 inc shipping from what I have read. I do not believe TR are being as transparent and doing right my owners of their HSF as other companies.

May I ask your location?
Edited by gupsterg - 4/19/17 at 4:20am
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Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung Evo 840 ThermalRight Archon IB-E X2 + 2x TY143 ThermalRight TY-143 2x front case intake Arctic Cooling F12 + 2x F9 as rear case exhaust 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 7 Pro x64 / Win 10 Pro x64 Asus MG279Q Cherry MX-Board 3.0 Cooler Master V850 
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SilverStone TJ06 Logitech G700S 
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post #10047 of 16743
The thing is I contacted Asus support. Got told contact seller. At least Asus would understand it where as laptop direct probably will not.If i got this from amazon It would be exchanged by now. I expected more from asus really.

As for elmor say they have know about this issue again angered me over the whole thing. Why even put 0.1% effot in to anything else if a bug like this existed. Always safety 1st. If this was in a building trade and a potentially safe Voltage was KNOW to give a lethal voltage and repeated ignored IE 110v giving out 440v (1.35v giving 1.5v+) If reported to proper people the whole site would be shut down and there would a HSE investigation and heads would roll.

I know all my volts show high, I can work around this but when there is massive drops and peaks of voltages and amp's I can not.

On a positive note Today my official Nxzt am4 bracket arrived today. Its Fitted and im running IBT max as I type
Completely free Shipped from USA to Uk

Testing beginning again biggrin.gif

Hoping it clears some readings up.
Edited by Ubardog - 4/19/17 at 4:25am
post #10048 of 16743
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Originally Posted by badhairguy View Post

Have you tried BCLK overclock? I have Samsung B Die G-Skill TridentZ 2x16GB and I can't boot at anything over a 2666MHz strap but I can run at 3200MHz if i increase bclk to 120mhz. The microcode update coming from AMD in May should address these issues, but until then, try a bclk overclock. For reference, I am running two 1070s in SLI at GEN3 and a 960 EVO m.2 drive in GEN3 as well with 120 bclk with no issues.

I was able to boot fine and didnt get any memory errors by running a (albeit very short, will test more extensively at a later time) memory test using memtest.exe with 2933 18-16-16-16-38 1.35v + 1.35v vboot with F4-3200C14D-32GVR. SOC voltage 0.95.
post #10049 of 16743
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Originally Posted by NotAgain View Post

"Updates" for Windows 10 are clean installs which migrate all your existing data over.
None of your drivers etc. persist.

But they do still exist: in registry.
post #10050 of 16743
Just my 2 cents on the stuttering, I wonder if the " game mode " changes have upped the priority to high or real time to give better performance, I know setting it like that causes apps like CB to do the stutter shuffle.
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