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Just my 2 cents on the stuttering, I wonder if the " game mode " changes have upped the priority to high or real time to give better performance, I know setting it like that causes apps like CB to do the stutter shuffle.
Game Mode has to be enabled for each application manually, and all it does is reserve 3/4 of the CPU exclusively for the game process, moving everything else onto the remaining 1/4.
This is only in effect when the game is the foreground application too.
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The thing is I contacted Asus support. Got told contact seller. At least Asus would understand it where as laptop direct probably will not.If i got this from amazon It would be exchanged by now. I expected more from asus really.

As for elmor say they have know about this issue again angered me over the whole thing. Why even put 0.1% effot in to anything else if a bug like this existed. Always safety 1st. If this was in a building trade and a potentially safe Voltage was KNOW to give a lethal voltage and repeated ignored IE 110v giving out 440v (1.35v giving 1.5v+) If reported to proper people the whole site would be shut down and there would a HSE investigation and heads would roll.

I know all my volts show high, I can work around this but when there is massive drops and peaks of voltages and amp's I can not.

On a positive note Today my official Nxzt am4 bracket arrived today. Its Fitted and im running IBT max as I type
Completely free Shipped from USA to Uk

Testing beginning again biggrin.gif

Hoping it clears some readings up.

These high voltages were observed with an aftermarket bracket installed right?
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Yes i have tried that and i can onlyget it semi stable and anything higher than 2933mhz, i have trident z rgb 3000mhz cl15, only thing i can get is my timings when choosing the standard docp, but i gues i wil have to wait for a new bios before i can it above 2933mhz stable, would love to get this kit to 3600mhz some day :-)
Before i forget i use two sticks of 8gb :-)

How about VDDSOC? try raising it to 1.2v. Raise Dram volts to 1.4 and Dram boot volts to 1.4. Set your timings to 18-18-18-18-40. Try one of the 2T bios. Make sure spread spectrum is disabled. I couldn't run over 3000mhz until i used 0082 bios.
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These high voltages were observed with an aftermarket bracket installed right?

These are with official AM3 backplate pulled from my old board and the X62 with official AM3 mounting kit from my old board. So with AM3/4 on this board it should not have been an issue. Just one "variable" out the way.

Im far more pleased with the over all fitting of the new style. It Fixes plate to board with set spacer. Then header just sits on top and you tighten that on you can't under or over pressure it.
Old style you fixed back plate on it was so lose. Then you placed the header on to tighten it all up. Back plate and header in one

IBT on 8th loop now Max temps 58 compared to 60. Definitely some Gain.
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How about VDDSOC? try raising it to 1.2v. Raise Dram volts to 1.4 and Dram boot volts to 1.4. Set your timings to 18-18-18-18-40. Try one of the 2T bios. Make sure spread spectrum is disabled. I couldn't run over 3000mhz until i used 0082 bios.
Have tried dram volts at 1.45 soc volts at 1.2 and even with timings as high as 20-24-24-24-50-2t (using 0083) and dram boot volts at 1.45 but its a no go, just have to settle for what i have now 2933mhz 15-16-16-16-35-2t i gues :-(
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@gupsterg My double/Triple boot issues were there from day 1. All Stock settings, even with 0902.
Have tried disabling CSM, higher soc, higher Dram voltage, higher VBoot.

It gets to the CPU(red)Led in a few seconds, reboots -> gets there again, but spends a bit more time there, reboots, spends the same amount of time(maybe a couple secs. more) & then finally moves on to the VGA led(white) & I can see the post screen.
It takes about 30-40 secs. to post! sad-smiley-002.gif

Dunno mate what to suggest frown.gif .

I can only say I have had same mobo, I have used 2x differing batches of R7 1700, then also Corsair LPX 2400MHz C14 2x 4GB kit, Crucial Ballistix 2400MHz C16 2x 4GB kit and G.Skill Trident-Z 3200Mhz C14 2x 8GB kit.

On Corsair and Crucial kit regardless stock CPU or OC, with 2400MHz RAM using right strap or D.O.C.P, it was 1x post of mobo every time. I used stock SOC for 2400MHz. Mobo was UEFI defaults (ie 2133MHz, SOC: [Auto], etc) measured on ProbeIt point as ~0.838V on 1st, ~0.893V 2nd. I also manually set value to make as same measured on DMM as [Auto] did not need to change VBOOT from [Auto], VDIMM on both kits was 1.2V from [Auto]/D.O.C.P.

G.Skill set I have only really used as 2933MHz on 1st and 3200MHz on 2nd. 1st needed SOC: 0.900V in UEFI instead of SOC: 0.825V for 2400MHz on other kits. 2nd needed SOC: 0.975V in UEFI instead of 0.875V on 2400MHz kits. VBOOT/VDIMM has been 1.35V. It has been 1x post of mobo, only on 2nd CPU with 3200MHz I have has borked boot as described before off and on frown.gif .

From yesterday after the borked boot I now use "Sleep" in W10 Creators edition. I have had no issues, aware some members have "Sleep" issue with their rigs. I have done numerous short "Sleep" times and overnight last night. This is also saving me so far from the cold boot borked boot, resulting in 1x mobo post > shutdown > 3x post > enter UEFI and CPU get ~1.5V frown.gif .
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According to Martin it depends on the load. I usually don't see much variation either.

I can only say in my case, W7 with lengthy testing of x264 / Y-Cruncher / f@h and some RB it's been all good. Like said before, to me it seems some "setups" are more susceptible than others. What is making this occur between different "setups" I have no idea redface.gif .

Today I start doing more W10 stress testing so if anything changes from my experience on W7 I will share/post smile.gif .
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@Ubardog

I'll be truly honest, I will not buy Asus product from anyone but Amazon UK. Asus RMA from what others share / slight experience I have had is not stellar.

As I had mobo/CPU/RAM prior to contacting TR for AM4 bracket. I used and still am using AM3 backplate as in VX BTK II. And no nutty voltage issues as yourself.

Sorry not being helpful with my post redface.gif .
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Dunno mate what to suggest frown.gif .

I can only say I have had same mobo, I have used 2x differing batches of R7 1700, then also Corsair LPX 2400MHz C14 2x 4GB kit, Crucial Ballistix 2400MHz C16 2x 4GB kit and G.Skill Trident-Z 3200Mhz C14 2x 8GB kit.

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G.Skill set I have only really used as 2933MHz on 1st and 3200MHz on 2nd. 1st needed SOC: 0.900V in UEFI instead of SOC: 0.825V for 2400MHz on other kits. 2nd needed SOC: 0.975V in UEFI instead of 0.875V on 2400MHz kits. VBOOT/VDIMM has been 1.35V. It has been 1x post of mobo, only on 2nd CPU with 3200MHz I have has borked boot as described before off and on frown.gif .

From yesterday after the borked boot I now use "Sleep" in W10 Creators edition. I have had no issues, aware some members have "Sleep" issue with their rigs. I have done numerous short "Sleep" times and overnight last night. This is also saving me so far from the cold boot borked boot, resulting in 1x mobo post > shutdown > 3x post > enter UEFI and CPU get ~1.5V frown.gif .
Haha.. I'm planning to do the same, only solution so far is to avoid the problem biggrin.gif
All my hopes are on Bios update, fingers crossed. If you do find/come up with a a solution please do tag me.

Also, just an FYI, edit your last post if you need to add something instead of double posting.
Our systems don't, but we have a choice tongue.gif
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Yes, TRUE BTK + AM4 upgrade kit which they gave it for free (paid only P&P). Original Venomous BTK is only for Intel AFAIK.

So, what do you think? Leave MBO's backplate and install this one form TR or use this one with MBO?

I did not receive MBO yet (on Friday) so I do not know is it plastic or metal.

Mobo AM4 backplate is nice metal one wink.gif , I would use that. If you compare it to TRUE BTK it has more contact with mobo, which I prefer. Below is image from TR AM4 install guide. The red outlined / arrowed elements meet back of mobo, where as AM4 backplate is greater area, again my preference.






If you wish to use TR backplate instead of AM4 be aware it has a sticky pad between it and mobo. I used hairdryer to warm AM4 backplate and it came away easily with little manual pulling. I had zero sticky residue left on mobo. Prior to doing that method I asked in thread and Elmor gave green light to do wink.gif .

Interesting they gave your free TRUE BTK. I have Archon SB-E X2 and IB-E X2. They wanted initially 9.99€ for TRUE BTK for Archon SB-E plus 15.90€ shipping, total of ~£22. I was quite upset by this. I pointed out I also have 5x TY-143 fans and still own a ThermalRight TRUE 120 Rev.A plus owned other TR coolers over the years. They came down to 9.99€ for TRUE BTK plus 8.50€ shipping = ~£16 with FOC 2x AM4 back/top plate. The TRUE BTK also had a AM4 back/top plate eh-smiley.gif , so now I have 3x AM4 back/top plate. I did also point out that Be Quiet / Noctua offer FOC AM4 inc shipping from what I have read. I do not believe TR are being as transparent and doing right my owners of their HSF as other companies.

May I ask your location?

Sorry if my post wasn't clear smile.gif I bought separately TRUE BTK for 10 EUR and not from TR. My friend who owns a PC store sold me one.
TR.de from Germany asked me the same price as you mentioned. 9.99 + DHL shipping = 20-something EUR. Said, no thanks, just FOC AM4 kit and I paid 5 EUR shipping which is OK. So 15 EUR costs me in total.
I think Venomous X is a quite capable cooler for R5 1600 coupled with Noctua 120mm fan. That combo cooled i7 875K (4GHz) and i7 2600K (4.5GHz).

Ok, back to MBO bracket. So, to try original bracket than? Will do. Thanks.

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I have the same case, thinking about to buy bequite silent wings 3 140mm high speed to push some more air inside. Did you find any mod for this case??

With regards.

I haven't looked for any mod for the case yet, but I'm thinking that I should probably put 3 140mm to also push more air.
The case is easy to mod at least, so adding an extra 140mm shouldn't be too hard, and yeah, I think the bequiet are a good choice because the ones from Phantek are kind of noisy and don't really ramp very well.
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@Benus74

So is our PCH temp normal? Everything else in my computer is running cool. I'm assuming that my 1070 just runs out which is over the PCH. I've got decent cooling as well. Just not sure why only the PCH is high when my CPU and VRM is running much cooler.

I can't say for sure but yesterday I've done a lot of testing with more cooling getting in my case and I could see the PCH not going over 61°C with FAH running for 10 hours on both GPU and CPU (used 12 cores only as using 15 gives me weird behaviour with work not being distributed to my computer... FAH doesn't like high even numbers of CPU wink.gif ).
Also on IDLE the PCH went down to 54°C which is already lower than what I was seeing previously.

My VRM on the other side only got up to 55°C at the end of the load, and after stopping it, it went down to 42°C pretty quickly.

For sure it proves my cooling wasn't enough!
But at the same time, do I want a system with fan blowing at max all the time? no I don't.

I'll get a bequiet fan and I'll put that in the case and see if more air flow as lower speed allow good enough temps (say max 62°C on PCH and idle at 52°C)

Also if you check this post it seems that some other MB also suffer from high PCH temps: https://community.amd.com/thread/214508
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Figured it was the motherboard chip. Bottom right side.

I think PCH is for the chipset temperature monitoring, which is the block below the RAM with the glowing ROG logo on it (glowing if you've enabled RGB wheee.gif)
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