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@Ashura

If I see any resolution will share smile.gif . Cheers for tip on etiquette smile.gif , sometimes I find my posts get long and may have multiple member reply, then some will quote whole post and it just seem huge again redface.gif. So sometimes I double post, which is not correct I agree redface.gif .

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No problem smile.gif , thank you for information, I appreciate it thumb.gif . Agree these air coolers are pretty damn good wink.gif . For a number of reason really like the Archon. Worked well on my i5 4690K for 4.9GHz 24/7 use. On the R7 I can use a way quieter fan profile on Archon vs i5 for stability testing. Gaming/Normal usage both setups were very quiet.

@Benus74

Ignore red box in image, under HS by SATA is PCH as you guys are discovering wink.gif .


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Dunno mate what to suggest frown.gif .

I can only say I have had same mobo, I have used 2x differing batches of R7 1700, then also Corsair LPX 2400MHz C14 2x 4GB kit, Crucial Ballistix 2400MHz C16 2x 4GB kit and G.Skill Trident-Z 3200Mhz C14 2x 8GB kit.

On Corsair and Crucial kit regardless stock CPU or OC, with 2400MHz RAM using right strap or D.O.C.P, it was 1x post of mobo every time. I used stock SOC for 2400MHz. Mobo was UEFI defaults (ie 2133MHz, SOC: [Auto], etc) measured on ProbeIt point as ~0.838V on 1st, ~0.893V 2nd. I also manually set value to make as same measured on DMM as [Auto] did not need to change VBOOT from [Auto], VDIMM on both kits was 1.2V from [Auto]/D.O.C.P.

G.Skill set I have only really used as 2933MHz on 1st and 3200MHz on 2nd. 1st needed SOC: 0.900V in UEFI instead of SOC: 0.825V for 2400MHz on other kits. 2nd needed SOC: 0.975V in UEFI instead of 0.875V on 2400MHz kits. VBOOT/VDIMM has been 1.35V. It has been 1x post of mobo, only on 2nd CPU with 3200MHz I have has borked boot as described before off and on frown.gif .

From yesterday after the borked boot I now use "Sleep" in W10 Creators edition. I have had no issues, aware some members have "Sleep" issue with their rigs. I have done numerous short "Sleep" times and overnight last night. This is also saving me so far from the cold boot borked boot, resulting in 1x mobo post > shutdown > 3x post > enter UEFI and CPU get ~1.5V frown.gif .
I can only say in my case, W7 with lengthy testing of x264 / Y-Cruncher / f@h and some RB it's been all good. Like said before, to me it seems some "setups" are more susceptible than others. What is making this occur between different "setups" I have no idea redface.gif .

Today I start doing more W10 stress testing so if anything changes from my experience on W7 I will share/post smile.gif .

I may use sleep as well now, my 3200mhz doesnt seem to reliably boot once in a while and im stuck with f9>0d and then have to reset cmos and start all over again.
    
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Anyone knows why cpu core voltage showing something different than vcore in hwinfo64 and wich one to trust? I see "spike" up to 1.461 in vcore and only 1.387 in cpu core voltage.
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post #10064 of 17798
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@Benus74

Ignore red box in image, under HS by SATA is PCH as you guys are discovering wink.gif .



Ooohh, that is the PCH diode... then that would explain why it's so hot smile.gif
My GTX 1060 being mounted in the PCI slot just above, it nearly covers it, and so, when GPU is hot, PCH is hot smile.gif

Then it's probably nothing to worry about as there is nothing much in this area of the mobo anyway smile.gif

Thanks a lot of making this clear to us, I really thought the PCH diode was next to the chipset itself.

+REP for that man wink.gif

btw - where did you get this information from? I'm curious to see how you've found that smile.gif
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So just for poops and giggles i tried getting 3200mhz the old fashioned way dram/dramboot at 1.35 still works fine and still needs a single reset to get it going, soc at 1.15. So on my end change dram voltages makes no difference, both works 1.36/1.45 and/or 1.35/1.35. Changing soc is the only way to get it to post and reset once the only way to boot. I have not been able to get it to boot reliably at 3200/1.15v but im sure theres some settings i havent tried.

Changing soc to anything above 1.16 cause immediate f9>0d.
    
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I am having some problems, and hope one or more of you will have some advice for me. I was running my C6H with an 1800X, 3.85GHz. All has been fine, temps not a problem. Memory at 2667. After going to 0083(2T memory), I started to see some instability. If I would leave my system running overnight or through the day, when I came back, the machine would be locked and the post code 8 was on the display. So, crashed. I have not been doing anything fancy, no p-state or other overclocks, a straight 100(or 99.8)*38.75. So, I decided to go back to 0902 to test. I went back to 0902. Same problem, the 8 code, not all the time.

Do you think it is my motherboard, or the CPU? I didn't think memory overclocks would produce an 8 code, but even then, I have it back to full stock.

To add insult to injury, creators update decided to come down, and was in the process of upgrading the last 8 code, which completely killed my Windows 10(can't go back to previous version, no restore points due to the upgrade killing those). I am restoring from my initial drive image, but I am wondering if PCH temp getting high might produce the 8 code. The weather has been getting warmer, so temperatures MIGHT be an issue in some cases, though not that bad.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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I am having some problems, and hope one or more of you will have some advice for me. I was running my C6H with an 1800X, 3.85GHz. All has been fine, temps not a problem. Memory at 2667. After going to 0083(2T memory), I started to see some instability. If I would leave my system running overnight or through the day, when I came back, the machine would be locked and the post code 8 was on the display. So, crashed. I have not been doing anything fancy, no p-state or other overclocks, a straight 100(or 99.8)*38.75. So, I decided to go back to 0902 to test. I went back to 0902. Same problem, the 8 code, not all the time.

Do you think it is my motherboard, or the CPU? I didn't think memory overclocks would produce an 8 code, but even then, I have it back to full stock.

To add insult to injury, creators update decided to come down, and was in the process of upgrading the last 8 code, which completely killed my Windows 10(can't go back to previous version, no restore points due to the upgrade killing those). I am restoring from my initial drive image, but I am wondering if PCH temp getting high might produce the 8 code. The weather has been getting warmer, so temperatures MIGHT be an issue in some cases, though not that bad.

Any advice would be appreciated.

A lot of people who use the new test BIOSes have notice that you need more voltage (in most cases) to be stable to where you were at 902/1002 (which is why im still on 1002 and sticking to it for now).

Code 8 is CPU not operational, means your pc froze overnight thats all it is. I get code 8 ONLY when i launch msi afterburner and 1/10 times it will freeze and i get a code 8. The reason for the freeze could be software and/or hardware just not too sure.

In between switching BIOS you need to make sure to clear cmos a couple times to get rid of stored settings, i would use 1002 instead of 902 though, it has even more stability updates then 902.
    
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How much vdroop is normal on LLC auto? If i set vcore to be 1.45, on load I get around 1.39.
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How much vdroop is normal on LLC auto? If i set vcore to be 1.45, on load I get around 1.39.

If it's stable thats fine, mine is offset at -.100, BIOS shows 1.22, HWinfo64 shows 1.256 at idle and goes to 1.199 under load, so you're on track.
    
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Post 10061 I said ignore the red box in image, that is motherboard temp sensor, that sensor was confirmed to me by Elmor.

PCH is under red heatsink outlined in below image.





I can not confirm if PCH has internal temp sensor or one placed on mobo at close proximity, only @elmor, @Raja@ASUS, @Praz or another more experienced person may confirm for us.

I only know where PCH is redface.gif .

@bluej511

Yeah until UEFI improves I'm gonna use "Sleep". I may even afterwards as then it's "instantaneous" desktop smile.gif .
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