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Originally Posted by malitze View Post

You overclocked your CPU as well? Using pstates or directly via multiplicator? I take it you didn't increase the PLL voltage.

Yeah I just put manual voltage at 1.45v, no p state, offset or voodoo magic . Pll I think is 1.9v?
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Originally Posted by kundica View Post

Thanks. Checking the spreadsheet now. What does it default to on 1001? What is auto on 0079? This might help me pinpoint the right figure to use.

Elmor may know for those builds. As a pointer, my 32GB kit (2x 16GB modules) needs 80 Ohms. Praz's 4X8GB kit needs 36.9 Ohms. Setup this way, the board POSTs consistently from cold and warm resets without falling into safe mode. The 0079 UEFI build we're on does not default to these values.
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Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post

Blame is on both, you can't have one without the other. Even though people will beat it to death that it's AMDs fault its also mobo manufacturers fault for prioritizing Intel Z270 over AM4 and that came back to bite em in the butt. How come MSI has a whole lot less of issues then Asus does, so does Gigabyte for that matter.

If it was across the board AMDs fault ALL mobo manufacturers would have the same issues. We were told from the get go that the major BIOS update would be in May, Asus can't do anything till then but they could have polished their BIOS a bit more before release. They chose to devote the majority of resources towards z270 and thats understandable.

There is no one side to blame more then the other blame game, its equal.


Ya AMD got this out when it needed to for the stock holders but it needed some polishing. That said ASUS is the worst board for support so far. The Gigabyte guys are doing much better with little bugs
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Originally Posted by Targonis View Post

When people like to nail you to the wall for "promising" them something, being careful about HOW you say things, not just what you say will be useful. I fully respect that you are being careful. As an old-school Computer Science guy, I sometimes want to get into discussions about architecture. The whole "Fabric speed" being key for overall performance and how RAM speed comes into it discussion being one of those.

Thank you again for your continued presence here, because most of us DO appreciate what you and Elmor do for the community.

I understand. It's easy to be mislead by a lot of things, so one should be as thorough as possible before putting a stake in the ground and offering advice.
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Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post

Blame is on both, you can't have one without the other. Even though people will beat it to death that it's AMDs fault its also mobo manufacturers fault for prioritizing Intel Z270 over AM4 and that came back to bite em in the butt. How come MSI has a whole lot less of issues then Asus does, so does Gigabyte for that matter.

If it was across the board AMDs fault ALL mobo manufacturers would have the same issues. We were told from the get go that the major BIOS update would be in May, Asus can't do anything till then but they could have polished their BIOS a bit more before release. They chose to devote the majority of resources towards z270 and thats understandable.

There is no one side to blame more then the other blame game, its equal.

Some of the blame does lie with us as a vendor, but I can categorically tell you we did not prioritize one platform over the next for resources. The timeframes we were giiven to work in were a lot tighter than usual - and that can't be known unless you're on this side of the fence. In an ideal world, you wouldn't sell until something is truly ready, but, the world is never ideal. At the same time, the consumer isn't forced to pay for something at launch. No matter AMD or Intel, if you want a smooth ride, don't be an early adopter.
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

I understand. It's easy to be mislead by a lot of things, so one should be as thorough as possible before putting a stake in the ground and offering advice.

It isn't even about being mislead. Understanding WHY some things work and why they do not is where you see a lot of discussions and debate going on. Many/most of us do not understand how to read those deeper memory timings so we can better figure out proper latency and timings. Is there a guide(I know Asus has that Mem Tweakit program, or something like that, but how to make proper use of it I haven't gotten into yet.
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Originally Posted by Targonis View Post

It isn't even about being mislead. Understanding WHY some things work and why they do not is where you see a lot of discussions and debate going on. Many/most of us do not understand how to read those deeper memory timings so we can better figure out proper latency and timings. Is there a guide(I know Asus has that Mem Tweakit program, or something like that, but how to make proper use of it I haven't gotten into yet.

A person like you with a computer science background would be best advised to look at JEDEC's papers, as well as some of the papers from the memory vendors. All the basics are covered. The deeper stuff needs considerable time to get a grasp on.
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

A person like you with a computer science background would be best advised to look at JEDEC's papers, as well as some of the papers from the memory vendors. All the basics are covered. The deeper stuff needs considerable time to get a grasp on.
I would read JEDEC's papers, however when I tried to register one of the required necessity is I need to belong to a company.
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I am not as harsh as some critics here. I realize early adopter issues. But please don't make me regret my first of hundreds of Asus purchases. I mean I paid UP , top dollar, about $275 for the best Ryzen motherboard, and it does seem more problematic and slower to get bios updates than the cheaper alternatives. I really would hope Asus will support their flagship mobo the best, not the worst. Hoping good things to come in May.
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Originally Posted by wingman99 View Post

I would read JEDEC's papers, however when I tried to register one of the required necessity is I need to belong to a company.

You should still be able to get them.

Outside that, plenty on offer from Micron and Hynix.
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